Forum - View topicNEWS: Live-Action Ghost in the Shell Production Praised by Mamoru Oshii in Video
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TranceLimit174
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People are bashing Oshii because while he's being trotted out as piece of credibility, he has none. As the years go on, in my opinion he's only gotten more indulgent and subsequently worse as a filmmaker. The first Ghost in the Shell film is a classic, the 2nd film Innocence was trash where characters were more interested in quoting philosophers instead of spouting real dialogue. SAC is the reason people still think of GitS so fondly, as evidenced by this film's use of the Laughing Man. Anyway, as others have stated it's not like he's in a position to give anything other than praise. But yeah, I'm not gonna ask anyone to suffer through Innocence, however that movie proves why no one is putting stock in his words.
As for the movie itself, fans know what this really is. Just like Lucy, this is "Not Black Widow" the movie and a ScarJo vehicle that's using the franchise license as audience bait. This very well could be the case where as a film it will be fine, but as a Ghost in the Shell movie it will be terrible. |
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I'm not wanting this film to be bad and unlike others I knew that whitewashing was to be expected because it's a Hollywood film. That said, because it's a Hollywood film I'm keeping my expectations very low but I will go and see this because it looks fun and I'm a fan of the franchise.
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CCTakato
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White American anime fans: The live action Ghost in the Shell is horrible and racist and an insult to the creators!
Japan: We're pretty impressed by this movie and are willing to give it a shot. White American anime fans: Screw you Japan! You have no authority! Someone tell me I'm not the only one who's sees something wrong with this. |
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BadNewsBlues
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Besides the fact that some of the people complaining about the whitewashing aren't actually white? |
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redranger
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El Oh El. Don't kid yourself. Most of the people complaining about the casting are definitely white. Just like all the stupid little American Shonen Jump Weekly feminists who PMS about how much "pedophilia" is an anime. |
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CCTakato
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I'm sure there are probably some Asians who are critical of this movie and and won't be fans of it but that's not the point. The point is it's totally neocolonialist for white people to be going around complaining about this movie before they even bothered to ask the Japanese what they thought of it only to then silence any actual Japanese people, especially one's who had influential roles in the original Ghost in the Shell anime franchises, voices any nuanced or even supportive position of the film because their opinion didn't happen to fit into your assumptions about what another culture would think about this movie. You can disagree with Oshii all you want but it is unacceptable to tell him he can't voice his opinion on the film or that his opinion somehow matters less than your own just because it's different or you don't like his movies
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BadNewsBlues
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Are we talking about japanese people living in Japan who likely won't care? Or those living in places like America who're a bit more likely to take issue with the movie's mostly white cast?
Most may be but the the entirety of the people complaining about the cast aren't. |
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DangerMouse
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Yeah, the visual design is looking promising. And that in that little clip of them practicing for some action, Batou and Motoko taking on a shootout around their car looked pretty fitting. |
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SWAnimefan
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Well, I got to hand it to them, they are obviously pushing hard with the SFX. But in the end, it really boils down how the actors work off one another and how the story progresses, like in the Anime. If they bury the story in dialogue or make it all action, it will not end well.
Aka "all flash, not enough substance". |
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anddo
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This is simply not true, as Ghost in the Shell was always meant to receive an adaptation. The decision for Oshii as director was one possibility among many. The problem with Oshii is that he shoehorns in his own "unique" themes into everything he does, adaptation or not, which could (and did) devalue the original work drastically. I agree that the 1995 film is a good movie on its own, but once you look at it from the perspective of the manga you realize that it is the direct fault of the 95 film that GitS to this day has still not received a proper manga-to-anime adaptation. It was clear that 95 was now the "standard" for all GitS adaptations, which is a problem because now everyone holds Oshii's specific vision of the series as true and not Shirow's (the original creator) and you get 95-pandering adaptations like Arise and this live action film. In terms of faithfulness, Stand Alone Complex is still the closest to the manga and even then is not totally devoid of 95 influence. |
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residentgrigo
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You know that you have a PR problem if you need to fly in a now basically forgotten anime director (his 2nd GitS was a mega flop, but what a film) to reassure fans that all is ok. Lol.
What else was he supposed to say? This film looks more and more like a vapid piece of nothing to me (Æon Flux say hello...), basically a music video robbed of context, BUT the film will 100% look great. They hired the DCEU CG artists, so you know you will get proper eye candy! Next time get Snyder too, he knows how to honor comics and logically intermix source material. I will give the 1st real trailer the befit of the doubt but it will need to convince me then and there that i need to bother with the film. Prove me wrong Paramount! |
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EricJ2
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He's being brought out to "bless" the LA GITS so that the fans won't complain, as they've been doing since the day ScarJo was cast. Then again, the Japanese were excited that we were making a Godzilla movie in 1998, before they saw it. (And some anime fan must have asked Oshii about the theoretical possibility of a live-action Dreamer/Lum.  At the cons, if not on the set.
But, since Oshii's basically renounced anime, or deconstructs it like every other modern otaku-phobic Japanese when he does do it nowadays, qv. Sky Crawlers, yeah, there's no point in asking him anything about his past hits anymore.) |
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Snomaster1
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It's good that Mamoru Oishi likes the film. I hope the film does well. And for those who don't like the casting in the film,lighten up. It's ridiculous and unnecessarily stupid. If the Japanese are willing to go along with it,who am I to argue? I just hope that they have Mary Elizabeth McGlynn in a cameo role here. Since she's the best known English language voice of the Major,I think it would be a great thing to see.
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