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Stuart Smith
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That is nothing new at all. The most bizarre thing is they have the rights to the original music but choose to replace it anyway. The move to another Network indicates to me that it's just another nail in the coffin for anime on American television. Some people might see that as a bad thing, but I think it's a good thing. Crunchyroll seems to be picking up a few more kids shows every season like Time Bokan 24, Monster Hunter, and Hey Bot. Unfortunately I don't think we'll ever get subbed Pocket Monsters so long as the license is in their hands, much like Digimon with Saban and Yu-Gi-Oh with Konami. Only newer franchises will benefit from this
I don't even like Avatar but I find that comparison to be pretty flimsy. Steven Universe only seems to be popular with Tumblr-crowd. Avatar actually had appeal beyond those people since it came out before Tumblr was a thing. That's probably why Legend of Korra was so ill received by comparison. I don't personally find Steven Universe worth watching and I don't really think it's really comparable to Pokemon to begin with. They're two different types of shows. -Stuart Smith Last edited by Stuart Smith on Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:21 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Ushio
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All TV ratings are dropping there are numerous primetime TV shows on ABC and Fox pulling 18-49 ratings and viewers lower than Adult Swim anime on Saturday.
Two years ago 1.5 was terrible today it's fantastic. |
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leafy sea dragon
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That's what I was thinking too--the Pokémon anime had always been sitting in the background, quietly bringing in money for Cartoon Network. I doubt the ratings tanked that hard. I suspect one of two things: Either 1) Disney has offered to pay The Pokémon Company a huge sum of money to switch over--considering they have Doraemon and Yo-Kai Watch, they have much faith in kids' anime, or 2) Cartoon Network wants to get all non-Toonami anime off of its schedule.
Disney XD is still a bigger channel thasn Discovery Family or Noggin, however, and most cable and satellite TV Disney Channel packets come with Disney XD. It is the channel that's been showing Gravity Falls and Star vs. the Forces of Evil. If those two shows can catch on being on Disney XD, it ismost certainly not a throwaway channel. Also, Garfield and Friends was thrown to at least four different channels (ABC, CBS, Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon) and lived a long life. Futurama went from Fox to Comedy Central via popular demand. Heck, Pokémon itself used to be on WB before migrating to Cartoon Network. (It was still under the Time-Warner umbrella, but they're different channels.)
More likely, I'd say someone at Cartoon Network didn't want to put up with the license fees anymore. Way easier to actually fully own as much of your programming as possible.
Dadgum kids! They ain't know what they want these days! Back in MY days, we had the good stuff, yessirree!
In all seriousness, I'd bet part of the reason behind that is the previous generation being obsessed with drama and action shows. Part of what defines a generation is its distancing from its previous generation, and I am certain the fall of action programming (besides comedy action shows like Sonic Boom and Transformers Rescue Bots) is largely because action shows are what today's kids' parents used to watch, and no kid wants to be like their parents. (For the record, I find plenty to like in today's family programming.)
Well, I do quite like a lot of those "badly-designed American series."
Not quite. Shows like Attack on Titan, Kill la Kill, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, and One-Punch Man are pretty close to breaking into mainstream awareness. Some would say One-Punch Man already has. Just that the overall mainstream interest is pretty low for anime, at least compared to domestic animation. Call me weird if you like, but I do sit through commercials. I often record as I watch, and I'll save the ones that stand out, like the absolutely creepy Play-Doh Doctor Drill-N-Fill.
If you thought the Hatfields-and-McCoys type rivalry between anime and American animation has gone away, you are sadly mistaken. It is still difficult to discuss American animation on an anime-themed place and not get mocked and insulted, and the other way around. It can be frustrating at times to be a fan of both, because I get mockery and insults from both sides. |
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BadNewsBlues
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No that's was the funimation dub i.e. the 2nd dub that aired on Toonami after the Ocean dub spent about 5-6 years total in reruns.
....That doesn't really take away from the hammy voice acting, silly edits, obnoxious music & everything being Americanized. |
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epicwizard
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This is totally surprising to me. Prior to this announcement, I used to think that Disney X-D airing Pokemon in the US was just a fantasy and very unlikely to happen. But now it's actually happening!
Nonetheless, I'm looking forward to the Sun & Moon dub and reruns of the previous seasons on Disney X-D! |
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elior1
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elior1
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CastMember1991
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Interesting...
Is it just me, or does Disney secretly want to make a deal with The Pokémon Company and do meet-and-greets with the Pokémon characters at Epcot? It seems that way since Nintendo seems to be leaving out the characters in their new themed land at the Universal Studios parks. It would be cool though, My hope is to see Pikachu in the Japan area of World Showcase. That being said, this is a bizarre announcement. I never thought Disney would buy the broadcasting rights to Pokémon. |
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peno
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@elior1: I only saw the first episode, yet, but I say it's turning even worse, than I anticipated. Not only they took everything they could from Yo-Kai Watch and tried to implement it to Pokémon world, but they are also trying to change the anime to some stupid harem school genre. Which, seeing what the target audience is and how old the characters are supposed to be, is especially wrong move IMO. The only thing I, quite surprisingly, liked, was the new art style. But that's not enough to save the anime for me, unfortunately.
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Cain Highwind
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[quote="leafy sea dragon"]
Oh man, that's a good way to put it. On a related note, a short while back, elsewhere where dubs were being talked about, I saw someone post "Ugh DUBS! I'd rather watch an episode of MLP." Yeah. It'd be funny if it weren't so sad Also, yeah, people are REALLY missing out not watching Steven Universe. It definitely goes into territory as dark as any shonen/all-ages Anime. |
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ReifuTD
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[quote="Cain Highwind"]
Going into Dragonball Super after seeing Steven Universe I feel like a appreciate the slice of life moments of Super. Actually think that's the beast part of Super because it's not only one of the few anime that gets a laugh out of me but does it constantly. In the end I almost feel like I get the that get the same emotionally satisfaction from both DBS and SU specially with the last arc of DBS. |
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michaeltanzer
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I think Funimation is better off licensing it instead...but without the Localized trainer and Pokemon names
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MoMo990066
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@ romanmack,
"Why do you think the only block that airs anime now, Toonami, airs at the dead of night on the lowest rated night for TV (Saturday). There's a reason for that. The mainstream doesn't care for it. " Well that and also due to the fact most people who watch anime tend to watch it online legally or illegally. [Edit]: removed unnecessary nested quotes. Please read the quoting guidelines. Errinundra. |
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elior1
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Yeah, that's NOT going to happen. The English names of the Pokemon are set in stone. In Japan, they had a "Lizardon" figure and underneath in English, it had "Charizard". The late Satoshi Iwata also referred to the red lizard thing as "Charizard". The English names are the least of one's worries. At least for the anime. Name changes, aside, the dubs are pathetic. |
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