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Dandylion



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:24 pm Reply with quote
A question for those Who have read the manga ... How does the anime compare to the manga ???
Is It Faithful ??? Do you think the anime will adapt the Whole manga ???

Please keep in mind that I still have to read/watch It !!!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:55 pm Reply with quote
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Nino's injury served several purposes, from offering Hiro Shimono the chance to play with interesting nuances of shock and anger beyond Jean's slightly less stoic facade


That's nicely put. While the usual level of "emotional anime overreaction" certainly would have been out of character for Jean, i couldn't help thinking that his non-reaction was a tad bit cold, considering this was his best friend almost dying for him. Perhaps i'll have to rewatch to catch those nuances. Wink

And yes, dear old Warbler finally put everything into words that has been sitting in the back of my mind for quite some time now. Bless him!
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Beltane



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:31 pm Reply with quote
Dandylion wrote:
A question for those Who have read the manga ... How does the anime compare to the manga ???
Is It Faithful ??? Do you think the anime will adapt the Whole manga ???

Please keep in mind that I still have to read/watch It !!!


Some of the scenes in the manga didn't make it into the anime, particularly towards the beginning. (They manage to cramp 2 manga volumes worth of material into the first three episodes of the anime.) But the plotlines that matter are all there in the anime, so I would say the anime is very faithful to the manga.

After episode 11, there are only 2 more chapters left in the manga to adapt, so yeah, the anime will adapt the whole thing.
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meiam



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:41 pm Reply with quote
At this point I'm guessing Jean will just abolish the monarchy altogether or something like that.
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Creashion



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:55 am Reply with quote
Sad that my "ship" did not happen :C.

Also, the anime was good, but somewhat unsatisfying, with a wasted potential.
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chaccide



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:33 am Reply with quote
For me it was unexpectedly satisfying. spoiler[ I thought, before this episode, that something wasn't sitting right with how Jean was acting because he was not the sort to want to be king, so he was playing everyone. But I had no idea how it would be resolved. This was a perfect solution, played out in front of everyone wanting a coup, completely shutting it down. (And I loved that the sole woman of importance in the hierarchy was the one who pulled it off, almost by herself) It was a smart and civil solution.]
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Merida
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:54 pm Reply with quote
That "coup" was very fitting for this show and i am satisfied with the conclusion overall. But as much as i loved seeing Lilium be put in his place, it was kinda puzzling that the only non-white people incidentally turned out to be the only truly evil (by ACCA's standards) ones... Confused

That aside, i enjoyed the show quite a bit, i'm really gonna miss my weekly cake and bread porn.
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meiam



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:19 pm Reply with quote
A bit too much of an unearned happy ending for me, everything just warping up perfectly well. The prince just accept to not disband ACCA forever, Furawau withdraw but immediately new resource are found to replace it completely. Suitsu just magically change (all the noble just decided spontaneously to relinquish control? Or was the old king the one forcing them into backwardness?). The princess just drop all assassination plan (to be fair they were so inept it doesn't really matters).

And what was Lillium plan anyway?

1- Organize a coup
2- Put Jean as king
3- ...?
4 - Profit!

Gee glad they avoided that masterful plan. Rolling Eyes
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Creashion



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:00 pm Reply with quote
meiam wrote:
A bit too much of an unearned happy ending for me, everything just warping up perfectly well. The prince just accept to not disband ACCA forever, Furawau withdraw but immediately new resource are found to replace it completely. Suitsu just magically change (all the noble just decided spontaneously to relinquish control? Or was the old king the one forcing them into backwardness?). The princess just drop all assassination plan (to be fair they were so inept it doesn't really matters).

And what was Lillium plan anyway?

1- Organize a coup
2- Put Jean as king
3- ...?
4 - Profit!

Gee glad they avoided that masterful plan. Rolling Eyes


Lilium was like:

-Oh, my evil plan failed? Ok, bye.

Leaves stage like nothing happened.

Everyone: Bye
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:16 pm Reply with quote
Lilium was going to use Furawau's oil power to try to dominate the whole kingdom through economic might. Furawau controls 90% of the oil (think Saudi Arabia in the late 20th century) so he thought he could buy/bribe his way to the top. But Lilium forgot two things. First, Furawau is a captive supplier (not like SA but more like Canada and the US) and second, military power trumps economic power as was aptly demonstrated by the Director-General.
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catbot158



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:58 pm Reply with quote
So in the end the coup is kinda stopped (kinda?), Lilium gets his smugness wiped off his stupid face, Mauve is now the rightful leader of ACCA, everyone gets a happy end, and spoiler[Owl became an even better character than anyone thought]. Seriously admit that I didn't see that one coming!

The plot did have some wide-open holes that would normally bother me, but weirdly, they didn't affect my enjoyment of the show. The characters acted in this chill, almost blissful way that didn't seem quite right for a political drama, but I still liked them. I think the vibe this show gave off helped me appreciate this show, warts and all. It's a nice change of pace from other shows like ACCA. Still would've appreciated some more tension in certain scenes, and the pacing could've been faster, but overall it was a delight to watch.

...And now I want cake. Laughing
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meiam



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:39 pm Reply with quote
HuuskerDu wrote:
Lilium was going to use Furawau's oil power to try to dominate the whole kingdom through economic might. Furawau controls 90% of the oil (think Saudi Arabia in the late 20th century) so he thought he could buy/bribe his way to the top. But Lilium forgot two things. First, Furawau is a captive supplier (not like SA but more like Canada and the US) and second, military power trumps economic power as was aptly demonstrated by the Director-General.


But none of that has anything to do with the coup and getting jean as king...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:07 am Reply with quote
As soon as Schwan declared he was going to disband the ACCA, a coup was inevitable. Grossular used Jean as a stalking horse to gauge the level of coup-sympathy in each district (he confirmed this in 12). We don't know exactly when Lilium took over (it might have happened from the start) but it became apparent when Grossular stupidly blabbed about the secret document so he was basically forcing a public coup as the only option

That was not Grossular's style (and he's not stupid). An open coup is a deliberate destruction of the rule of law. It destabilizes order, and ACCA is all about order. Grossular would never have yelled 'coup' everywhere on his own accord. He could instead (for example) have presented Jean to the public as the surprise legitimate heir in a legal transfer of power (confirmed with DNA, etc). Only a small handful of people knew the secret document even existed, and it could have been kept hidden or destroyed (Jean himself was unaware of its existence until Abend told Nino to reveal it to him), and if its existence was leaked somehow it still could have easily been denounced as a forgery. But Lilium clearly forced Grossular to blab about it, which meant that Jean would be made illegitimate in a plainly illegal coup as an ineligible heir and hence made 100% dependent on those who put in him on the throne (or so Lilium believed).

Lilium clearly lusted for power, and it might not have occurred to him that Jean would simply walk away from what was being offered to him. Lilium also got blindsided by the Privy Council apparently siding with Jean or at least acquiescing to his plan.
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WatcherZer



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:36 am Reply with quote
Grossular always knew and did indeed have a private word with each beforehand and use Jean to gauge appetite with the cig gift. The person who leaked that he was royal blood though and so instigated the coup thinking at ACCA was revealed to be the privy council head when Scwan revealed his intentions and the Kings condition worsened as he knew Jean would refuse the throne. He probably thought that Jean would just immediately abdicate or arrange a constitutional monarchy or something if he was made King or that ACCA would simply depose the monarchy altogether and become a republic.

One other thing in the end montage the reviewer missed was all the boxes in their apartment suggesting they were moving out of the apartment complex probably because Jean didn't want to rely on family money for support.

I was disappointed Jeans romantic overtures were shot down in favour of Grossular though she was a fair bit older, and Jeans sister probably should get over Nino since he's like 20 years older than her. I also didn't like the 'he was a good guy all along' suggestion that the Prince ordered the warning about the first Princesses hit order since he went to tell her knowing exactly that was what she would do.
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:50 am Reply with quote
WatcherZer wrote:
I also didn't like the 'he was a good guy all along' suggestion that the Prince ordered the warning about the first Princesses hit order since he went to tell her knowing exactly that was what she would do.

If I understand your complaint here, have another look at that scene again. Magie just said that to let the Prince off the hook and let him save face. Lotta apparently didn't care that the royals had tried to kill her, since they were still family (Rolling Eyes) and she's a forgiving girl, but the Prince knew exactly what he'd done, so letting him take credit was Magie's way of normalizing the relationship on both sides. Diplomacy.
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