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zrnzle500
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:02 pm
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^Sourcing being as it may, I can't really think of any other scene from an anime that aired last month that could be qualified as an extreme kiss scene with high school students. It seems to be a reasonable supposition to be an episode of Scum's wish.
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:05 pm
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As I said, I'm pretty sure the complaint is about Scum's Wish, but regardless, a story - even one tagged as Interest as opposed to News - probably shouldn't be using "some Internet users believe" as an actual source. Jes' sayin'.
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zrnzle500
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:18 pm
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Well its not like they are the only source cited in the article. The BPO statement is linked and people can come to their own conclusion, though no one has come to any other conclusion. Given their practice of not naming the show in question, definitive identification of the show is impossible so the only sources that can be cited are internet users. Maybe you could be more equivocal in the headline but that would seem a bit credulous. I don't think it is unreasonable in this situation to do what they have here, though generally one should get more definitive sources where such are available and the supposition more questionable.
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Blood-
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:25 pm
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zrnzie500 - I have it on good authority that "some internet users believe" that you are wrong!
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penguintruth
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:35 pm
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Seems like some people just can't find the TV remote to change the channel when they see something they don't like.
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zrnzle500
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:35 pm
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As I stated, such sources are generally not good practice but given the lack of definitive sources, the reasonableness of the supposition, and there being no real harm in any case, I believe it is reasonable in this case and the prior ones. I don't know that have anything else to add to this conversation so I will leave it at that.
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John Hayabusa
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:16 pm
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These complainers entertain me.
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:28 pm
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Abolish the BPO they are a nuisance and the irresponsible parents are even worse, well this is the country where some really irresponsible parents throw their grade school aged kids into the lions den called the idol industry.
Is it that tall of an order to be the parent? It's just as bad as in the US.
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SWAnimefan
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:33 pm
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Hoppy800 wrote: | Abolish the BPO they are a nuisance and the irresponsible parents are even worse, well this is the country where some really irresponsible parents throw their grade school aged kids into the lions den called the idol industry.
Is it that tall of an order to be the parent? It's just as bad as in the US. |
Irresponsible because they have a different opinion than you? Even if we don't share in their assessments of these anime, them criticizing is very much a thing a responsible parent does.
And to those who think turning off the TV is such an easy thing? We were all kids once and always went out of our way to do things we know our parents would not approve of. That's why some parents take things to what we would call "being excessive". Which is what these parents are obviously doing, they have the belief that it's being harmful not only to their children but other children. It's up the the consensus of society to determine if they are in the right or in the wrong.
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zrnzle500
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:33 pm
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^Generally speaking, turning off the TV is easier said than done as you say, but we're talking about a show that airs at 1 am. If the content is a concern, controlling one's kid's access to those programs is easier to implement, either through rules or parental controls, and justify to the kid (Whatever the content, it is difficult to argue a kid of an age where the content complained about would be a concern should be allowed to be up that late for long periods of time aside from extenuating circumstances). For that reason, these complaints seem much more salient when it is about daytime anime when kids could see content inadvertently and controls would be less desirable to apply.
I have no issue with them making complaints and having an organization to do so, even if I don't usually agree with the content of those complaints. I don't like what they have to say but they ought to be allowed to say it. It becomes an issue when they seek to control not just what kids see, but what everyone sees. Perhaps during daytime/prime time hours this is reasonable to some extent, but for late night anime, I don't think there is a serious concern about content being harmful to kids in practice if parents do their due diligence, putting aside the question of whether it is actually harmful in the first place. It seems less like reasonable concern for children's well-being and more like overbearing prudishness.
But I am not outraged by their complaints, disagreeable though they may be, because aside from shows aimed at younger children (where such concerns about content are most salient and reasonable) like PriPara, the content creators' response has been essentially "Yeah, yeah. Whatever. Who cares?" which I think is the correct response. Let them complain, hear them out, and especially for late night anime, don't change a thing (almost always). That seems to me a more effective way to stick it to such prudes than meeting their outrage with outrage or silencing.
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G_Spark233
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:07 am
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Blood- wrote: |
Quote: | The complaint does not identify the anime, but some Internet users believe it refers to an episode of Scum's Wish that was broadcast in January. |
Well, okay then - if that's what "some Internet users believe" then I'm sold! |
There isn't any other real possibilities unless it's an old show. Which is unlikely.
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relyat08
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:04 am
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My first thought was only in Japan would people complain about a kissing scene, just because the fear of any sort of PDA seems to be so extreme there. But then I realized that there are ridiculously prudish people here too, who think that you shouldn't kiss until you're married and similarly ridiculous things. And all it takes is one dumbass. I hope more anime show people kissing on screen. We need more legitimate sexual intimacy, as far as I'm concerned.
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killjoy_the
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:19 am
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It wasn't really just kissing, though. Or at least I hope what these people are complaining about isn't the kissing per se, because that scene went quite further.
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Afezeria
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:07 am
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That's because some people or some cultures out there are totally different from what you may think. There are a lot of belief out there that discourages kids or minor from seeing kissing scenes and as foolish as you've might think of it, these belief had happened from a long time ago and aren't going to be abolish anytime soon. I'm not one person to encourage the disclosure of sexual action because I'm not particularly sensitive to such things but there are others out there that think so, and that's totally understandable. They aren't so much of a dumbass but rather than being someone with teachings that you aren't familiar with, and to immediately considers that others with such thought should probably be out of the picture is nonetheless not admirable. With that said, those parents that complained about excessive materials in late night shows ought to loosen up a bit.
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:12 am
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This may be out there, but I think GL/BL romance scenes (you know, the steamy kind) often can be more risque than a straight couple doing it, depending on the series.
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