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CrowLia
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:28 am
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iamtooawesome wrote: | #1 LL! Sunshine, #2 Yuri On Ice, and #3 Utapri domination.
I have to agree that these 3 are making the BRD and DVD charts more lively compared to previous charts. I just read the article about the Avex Ban it was so sadenning, I wonder how it'll affect the future sales of YOI? I wont be surprise if it dropped hard. |
It's not going to drop hard because Oricon only reports domestic sales, so a dip in foreign sales won't be reflected on the sales numbers. The only difference is that people who were going to import it will probably use a proxy service anyway
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relyat08
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:55 pm
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CrowLia wrote: |
iamtooawesome wrote: | #1 LL! Sunshine, #2 Yuri On Ice, and #3 Utapri domination.
I have to agree that these 3 are making the BRD and DVD charts more lively compared to previous charts. I just read the article about the Avex Ban it was so sadenning, I wonder how it'll affect the future sales of YOI? I wont be surprise if it dropped hard. |
It's not going to drop hard because Oricon only reports domestic sales, so a dip in foreign sales won't be reflected on the sales numbers. The only difference is that people who were going to import it will probably use a proxy service anyway |
I don't know how many people will actually resort to using a proxy. It'll add about 30%-50% more onto the cost of the product, in the end, when you combine EMS shipping with the proxy fee, which is simply not feasible for a lot of people. I can't afford to buy the rest of the series myself, with that price increase, so I'm dropping out. $60 per volume across 6-7 volumes is one thing, $90-$100 per volume, and adding about 3 extra weeks for the shipping of each volume is an entirely different story.
But yeah, you're right that this will not affect the Oricon charts at all.
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Agent355
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:08 pm
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How does Oricon determine whether a sale is foreign or domestic? Do they have access to shipping addresses of everyone who buys discs on Amazon.jp?
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CrowLia
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:24 pm
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relyat08 wrote: |
I don't know how many people will actually resort to using a proxy. It'll add about 30%-50% more onto the cost of the product, in the end, when you combine EMS shipping with the proxy fee, which is simply not feasible for a lot of people. I can't afford to buy the rest of the series myself, with that price increase, so I'm dropping out. $60 per volume across 6-7 volumes is one thing, $90-$100 per volume, and adding about 3 extra weeks for the shipping of each volume is an entirely different story.
But yeah, you're right that this will not affect the Oricon charts at all. |
I've never really used a proxy service but does it really add that much to the cost? I briefly checked on White Rabbit a few months ago out of curiosity and don't remember it being that outlandishly expensive
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relyat08
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:06 pm
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CrowLia wrote: |
I've never really used a proxy service but does it really add that much to the cost? I briefly checked on White Rabbit a few months ago out of curiosity and don't remember it being that outlandishly expensive |
The biggest issue I always run into is the price difference between Amazon's Global Priority shipping through DHL(which is 1200yen for the first item, and 300yen for each additional item. Totally reasonable and I love it!), and EMS shipping through the Japan Post(which is by weight, and almost always costs me at least 2500yen for a single volume, and if I'm getting a larger item like a box set, or packing a few volumes together, it ranges from 5000yen to as much as 11300yen[both F/Z box sets with some JP exclusives like the posters]). Unfortunately, if you aren't shipping with Amazon, you are pretty much forced to go EMS, or choose the super slow uninsured shipping which is still more than Amazon and you could potentially wait as long as 3 months. On top of that you do still have to pay for the domestic shipping to the proxy warehouse, and you will typically have a 10% proxy fee that goes to the company. All in all, for a 6000yen volume, plus the 600 for the proxy company, 300 for standard domestic shipping, and 2500 for EMS for one volume, it will usually run about 9400yen or so.
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