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DmonHiro
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Today it Terrible business decisions: How to lose customers and drive them to piracy 101.
I've never seen a company outside of Japan say "I don't want you to buy my products". |
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michaeltanzer
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Waitwaitwait Hold up? Is it because of Crunchyroll and Funimation right?
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Ambimunch
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Don't worry guys, we always have the internet. If these folks don't wanna make money, no problem, we'll put our cash towards other shows and just pirate this one online lol. I bet they'll take off this restriction when a future show of theirs bombs and they'll suddenly need money, but by that time, they won't be relevant anymore.
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Aquamine-Amarine
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Well that's pretty dumb. They should be glad that people want to legally support a series. They should be making it EASIER for overseas fans to support a series, not harder. People are just going to start using forwarding services now, so I don't really know what they hope to achieve by doing this.
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Wingbeats
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Soo.....how will I legally buy soundtracks now? This is definitely not how you prevent piracy, nope.
Well, international order services I suppose. |
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BodaciousSpacePirate
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"You people don't deserve these shows that I don't like"? Okay... |
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ultimatemegax
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This is likely an issue more with Avex's music releases than anime titles. Avex doesn't hold international rights for many anime titles, including Yuri!! On Ice, Scorching Ping Pong Girls, Mr. Osomatsu, or even Initial D, all of which they hand a hand in producing. However, they do hold music rights for many artists, which they sell internationally to other labels and/or their subsidaries like Avex Asia (focusing on Taiwan and SE Asia) or Avex International (in the US). This move is likely designed to boost music sales in those regions (or start them in US perhaps) rather than focus on anime, which they don't have the rights in those regions and would only benefit from foreigners buying them.
Using Amazon Japan as an example, it's unlikely that Japanese online retailers have a system designed to prevent specific products from being sold internationally. That means that anything from Avex, including Blu-rays and DVDs are blocked when all they desired originally was CDs (and likely more foreigners bought CDs than the Blu-rays and DVDs anyways). Anime Blu-rays and DVDs were just a casualty of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. |
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Crisha
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Well... f***. Yuri!!! on Ice was actually the first series I seriously considered importing, and the reason I haven't done so is because of a surgery that I had at the beginning of January. I had considered maybe importing the BDs at a later date. I guess if that happens I'll have to rely on proxy services or ebay.
At least I've already gotten the Oh SkaTra soundtrack. It's gonna suck if any other cds that I want are released. Or maybe it's Funimation restricting it for their release? No idea. Ah, the rationale in the below makes sense. But that really sucks - the anime being held up because of the music. Last edited by Crisha on Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:07 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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WingKing
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This is probably getting close to the heart of it. This is the most insightful explanation I've seen so far for why they likely did this: https://curiouscat.me/somekindofthing/post/103515862 If the writer is correct, then this is about protecting Avex's pop music portfolio and has nothing to do with anime at all; the anime is just getting caught up in the wash of a clumsily implemented policy (and if you consider that Avex's annual revenue from their idol group CDs and merchandise undoubtedly dwarfs their revenue from anime sales, it makes a lot of sense). |
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ultimatemegax
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Crunchyroll likely has the master license to that series, including home video and merchandise rights. It was sold internationally by TV Asahi, not Avex. They'll be the ones who'll decide what goes on the North American Blu-ray/DVD release. While Avex International Inc does exist in the US, it's more likely that it'll be used to sell music rather than anime, much like Avex Asia in Taiwan/SE Asia. |
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relyat08
 Posts: 4125 Location: Northern Virginia |
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Eh, normally I'd agree with this, but the number of people importing ridiculously expensive JP BDs is a pretty tiny number, and not very likely to effect their local distributor in most cases. For me, I almost always buy the domestic release as well as the imported one, if it is available, but I like to be able to buy an imported copy of something that I can't legally buy here. Blocking me from doing so if moronic.(ultimatemegax I'm sure knows what is going on more than me, so I'll assume, and hope, it's something like that, rather than a Japanese company being way too insular)
I hate to do it, but this is the very reason that I download torrents of every show that I like for archival purposes. I can't rely on there being a physical release for too many of my favorites. I buy JP releases regularly, but if I can't even do that in some cases now, that's too many shows that I'd have to leave out of my collection. |
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Megiddo
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As a frequent purchaser of things on Amazon.co.jp I can tell you that not only is it fairly simple to block an item from being purchased from people with mailing addresses in specific countries, it is implemented with anime merchandise so frequently now that I'm actually surprised when something I want to buy is able to be shipped to me. |
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ultimatemegax
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Amazon Japan uses a system where the publisher name determines if you can buy something internationally. That's why you can order things like tickets to Aniplex movies; the publisher name is Aniplex and they can ship anything Aniplex internationally. When I said specific products, I meant specific products to specific countries. You're likely finding the right publisher that triggers as being able to ship all of their goods internationally to any country. If they had a system that isolated CDs to SE Asia, we may not have seen this restriction applied to everything. |
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LilyChan
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Nothing says "we want to succeed in the west" louder than barring music, DVDs, and Blu-Rays from coming to the west. |
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luffypirate
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Sounds like this was a music thing that anime unfortunately got wrapped up into. I know a few people that will be upset by this.
I've been taking a break from BD collecting... As much as I'd like to jump on these brand new titles (especially that ice skating one) I've recently relocated with my family and the hospital I'm working at doesn't pay me as much as I'd anticipated they would. That and we are expecting our second child... I'll stick to streaming for now. |
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