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EricJ2
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Uh, there may actually be a REASON why Catnapped and Harmageddon weren't on Paste's essential list?...
And be honest, how many anime features are there, when you start getting past the classics into just naming Whatever You've Heard Of? 200's stretching it a bit thin. Anime features tend to be "art" or series-tiein, and while there's the agreed-upon list of actually good and memorable Art features, there's only a handful of essential Greatest TV Tie-ins. (Props for remembering Ranma 1/2: Big Trouble, btw.  )
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penguintruth
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I was going to bitch about you including dull crap like Odin and Harmagedon, but then I noticed you made this reference to a classic from The Simpsons. "I dinna come forward because in this country, it makes you look like a pervert—but every single Scottish person does it!" Birth is certainly... fascinating. |
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zawa113
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I do love anime movies that aren't Miyazaki! (Mostly because I dislike Miyazaki movies in general quite a bit), so there's more for me to discover!
As for my commentary on this batch (I figure I should wait to see if other things I like are higher up, because They Are Eleven deserves to be higher up anyway) Catnapped-damn do I love this movie! I think it's partly a mix of having a soft spot for it (and cats in general), but it's a fun and weird and imaginative movie. And pretty damn insane, that's for certain. It's a mad fever dream but a neat one. Hands Christian Anderson's Little Mermaid-this was actually really good, I'm glad Discotek got it! If you're not a fan of the Disnified version, I quite enjoy this one, which actually follows its source material (depressing end and all) and doesn't have gaping plot holes (the prince in this actually hands her a pen and paper, but she can't read or write. Unlike Ariel whom we know can write because she signed that contract) or the stupid 3 day limit (so she actually does have time to get to know the prince for reals at least). And you can tell Disney took a lot of cues from this, it's the sort of thing you'd probably assume it's a knockoff if you didn't know it came earlier. Although I must point out, her companion in this is a dolphin, but their people don't visit the surface until they're old enough, and that seems to include companions. Who is a dolphin. Who must breathe air. But never surfaces. Yeah... I see why Disney went with a fish. Harmageddon-I literally fell asleep during this, my god is it boring. I'll take the broken in literally every aspect but entertaining as hell Genma Wars over this any day. Ringing Bell-Sanrio, they're happy and cheery, right? Oh what a difference 45 minutes can make. I really do love this movie though, it's the right length with no extra padding and it does its thing so damn well. Some things I'd like to check out from this batch: Time Stranger, Gusko Budori, Marine Express, Twelve Months, Summer Days With Coo. For the record though, I think Colorful is one of the best anime movies I've ever seen, but I am more than willing to watch Coo and be proven wrong. |
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H. Guderian
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That sentiment behind this list feels very true to me. once you've been around the block a few times seeing a top anime list featuring mostly Miyazaki films is murderous. It would suggest that if we removed Miyazaki from anime's timeline there'd be so little left over.
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Top Gun
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Mike, you are a mad genius. I love how often you stump for overlooked and forgotten gems of the medium, and you've already turned me on to multiple films and shows that I never would have stumbled across otherwise. I'm unfamiliar with the vast majority of this set, but just like always I'm sure there are several that'd be right up my alley.
As an aside, this list really reinforces how stand-alone movies and OVAs seem much less prominent in the overall fandom than they were in its earlier days, which is a shame as far as I'm concerned. It's so much easier to draw in new fans if you can sit them down in front of a 90-minute film than by forcing them to watch multiple episodes of a series, because "It gets really good by episode 6, I swear!" A big part of what made titles like Akira and Ninja Scroll noteworthy gateway drugs 20 years ago is that they didn't need any additional introduction, and they had enough hooks that they were able to be spread by a simple "Man, you have GOT to see this thing!" Once you get outside of Ghibli, there hasn't been too much in the last decade or so that has attained that sort of status, though maybe something like Your Name can take on that role going forward. |
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ethos711
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I remember having an old VHS recording of Twelve Months when I was a little kid. Long before I even knew what anime was. I have no idea where we got it, but my sister and I loved it and watched it many times. That and Unico (I wonder if that will be on the list somewhere). I didn't realize their Japanese origins until much later.
Twelve Months is a charming little film. Fairly short and with a pretty rough dub, but they didn't really do good dubs back then, regardless of origin. |
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Maximus44
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Absolutely fantastic article!
I've grown a trust associated to anything you recommend, so I will be trying my best to check out these animes! |
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Ouran High School Dropout
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Articles like this are a delight, for no other reason than letting you know just how little you know!
 Of the 25, I've seen six of these titles, and only heard of another five.
I've no qualms about Odin and Harmageddon leading the list from bottom to top, but frankly expected Armitage to rate higher, in my view easily in the top 50 if not top 30. It's one of the best memories from my early days of anime fandom and have shared it many times over the years. I'd kill for a quality Blu-ray! I remember when Spring and Chaos came out on disc; it somehow didn't catch my attention (I only saw Night on the Galactic Railroad many years later). As for Ringing Bell, I distinctly remember the cover art and taking it strictly as a child's tale--no idea it was so dark. May have to check it out, along with Asura, which sounds just chilling... Then there's Urotsukidoji...yes, it can be horrifying in its "erotic" violence, but it nonetheless has a cohesive narrative that has no small level of tension. Mike is quite right in making a case for it. Last edited by Ouran High School Dropout on Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:28 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Turro
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Thanks Mike!
Great list so far, some of this movies were on regular rotation on the tv stations of my country when I was a kid on the 80's. Treasure island was a great hit on those years. Can't wait for the next 25..... |
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Ouran High School Dropout
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Know the feeling!,,,but for me, it was for shows like Gigantor, Kimba, and Speed Racer (just dated myself horribly, but what can you do?  )
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TheAAA
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People often misunderstand Urostsukidoji. It's tentacle porn, yes. Unavoidably so. But the movie cut especially is a pretty effective horror film that caused visceral, outraged reactions in viewers when it was first released. And the movie cut only splices together the first couple OVAs. If you watch the Legend of the Demon Womb ones and Inferno Road and all that stuff, you'll see surprisingly sprawling lore and backstories. Very well thought out as far as monster rape goes. I also recommend checking out the manga if you can get it. It's very different from the anime. Not what I expected.
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Cerceaux
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Back when I was first getting into anime I caught a late night showing of Armitage on TechTV and it blew my mind. I've been a fan ever since.
That's actually the only title on the list I've seen though, ouch! 
I enjoyed the article, it's more fun to learn about things I haven't watched than just read a list of things I already know are good. Also looking at the Paste article I see that it has "Gyo: Tokyo Fish Attack" ranked higher than "Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust" which pretty much destroys its credibility for me 
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CES06
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I'd like to add that the Heartcatch Precure movie involves fighting a giant dragon- it's pretty amazing fight! The series is definitely worth checking out, too. It touches some pretty complicated themes for a kids show, and has an especially poignant ending.
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JB Gra
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It's a pleasant surprise to see Andersen Dowa Ningyo Hime, especially since I thought nobody remembered it.
I watched it when I was a kid and my big sister actually taped it on betamax format (guess how old I am lol). So a few years ago I decided to search on the internet if I could rewatch it again for nostalgia reasons. Now, I don't remember crying watching it while I was still a kid, but certainly I did cry watching it again now that I'm older, something that never happened watching Disney's version (and Disney's The Little Mermaid is my favorite Disney film of all time). To be honest, I skipped some parts and bits of the article, but I promise to read it some other time when I'm not falling asleep. |
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uguu
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There's this really common western anime fan meme that Harmageddon is one of the worst anime of all time, sometimes people even go after the animation saying it's horribly bad which is ridiculous & shows how arbitrary the hate towards it really is. I'm glad you offered an alternate viewpoint but I doubt it'll help at this point.
What I found funny is that Justin Sevakis' reasons for considering it garbage could apply just as much to Cyborg 009 (original manga & the most accurate anime adaptation from the 2010s at least), which everyone loves. I can't say I agree with Ishinomori constantly drawing blackface (and I doubt it was "ignorance" since he & Tezuka seemed pretty knowledgeable about worldly issues) but otherwise I truly think the man was a better and more thoughtful social progressive than a lot of the 'woke' American comic book authors today. |
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