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TenCentFang wrote:

That's not automatically a bad thing. Everyone loves Ms. Marvel, for instance.

Do they? Given the numbers it must not be a lot of people. All of Marvel's agenda-pushing titles like Squirrel Girl and Moon Girl are selling poorly. Marvel said they'll back off politics next year, but I'll believe it when it happens. But Marvel would probably publish Ms Marvel no matter how low the numbers get because cancelling it would result in a huge PR backlash for them.

Agent355 wrote:

Do you have a source for that? From what I've gathered, it's hard to get an accurate picture of comic sales because Comixology doesn't release their numbers. If you're just looking at monthly floppies , barely anything sells anymore, period. Now, if you want to look at movie ticket sales, the MPAA just released a report in which they concluded themselves that an increase in African American, Asian American, and female moviegoers is due to an increase in diversity in films.

I haven't looked into the comics numbers, but one could argue that any increase in "minority" viewers for movies is more than offset by a large exodus in "majority" viewers, which is bad for the "bottom line". Since movie ticket sales are on a downward trend since the peak in 2002. (box office numbers are up only due to ticket price inflation)
http://www.the-numbers.com/market/

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Now, if you want to look at movie ticket sales, the MPAA just released a report in which they concluded themselves that an increase in African American, Asian American, and female moviegoers is due to an increase in diversity in films.

Correlation doesn't imply causation. The movies they listed for female dominated viewers were Finding Dory, Secret Life of Pets, and Jungle Book. Only one of those starred a female, and two don't even star humans. How do they know the increase in black or Asian viewers wasn't because they saw Deadpool, Captain America, or Suicide Squad? I don't remember any Asian led films last year at all.

Agent355 wrote:

Do you have a source for that? From what I've gathered, it's hard to get an accurate picture of comic sales because Comixology doesn't release their numbers. If you're just looking at monthly floppies, barely anything sells anymore, period.

Floppys still make up the vast majority of sales for comics. Unless Moon Girl is selling hundreds of thousands of copies digital to offset the 8000 floppys it moves, I'm going to count it a dud.

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Your experience living in an all white neighborhood is valid, and is certainly reflected in media, but many other Americans live in more diverse communities--not only in coastal cities, but in most states in the country. Why does it bother you when media reflects that?

I just find it contrived is all. The group of protagonists always just so happens to be an ethnically diverse team. If the show takes place in the city then sure, makes sense, even though self segregation exists but is never snown, which is awfully convenient, but whatever. It's strange in fantasy settings though, where a diverse cast wouldn't make sense logically but is done to be diverse anyway. It makes the world and writing seem lazy and illogical.

Don't Marvel titles sell poorly even when they aren't "pushing an agenda" lord knows the number of books Marvel has canceled during their entire existence that weren't canceled because of "diversity".

Kamala Khan and Doreen Green have followings for their personalities and their books' styles, while Ironheart, Female Thor, Spider-Gwen, and whoever's replacing Captain America at the moment...nnnot so much.

Floppys make up the vast majority of comic sales? Again, where is your source for this claim? Because if you look up sources, you'll see that as of 2015, graphic novels outsold periodicals. And who's buying graphic novels? Considering how well children's titles like Raina Telgemeier's books did when the New York Times tracked best selling gns, I'd guess parents. Moon Girl is an all-ages title that has been getting great reviews. I wouldn't count it out just yet!

Self-segregation is very well represented in media that takes place in cities. Just going back to the 90's, comedies like Friends, Seinfeld, and Sex and the City all took place in New York City and all featured all white casts. For some reason, people didn't start seriously complaining about it until a young women named Lena Dunham did the exact same thing in her show Girls, but most shows that take place in cities aren't necessarily more diverse than shows that take place anywhere else. I think newer shows, especially ones courting younger audiences, are trying to change their casting, and yeah, sometimes that feels contrived. But it's also still more likely that TV shows and movies made in the US have all white casts than diverse casts, and that's a problem in a country that's as diverse as the US.

Did you read the article? It literally said that the uptick in minority ticket sales in America not only made up for a slight downtick in white Americans going to the movies, but lower-than-expected movie ticket sales in China. So, no.