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EP. REVIEW: Restaurant to Another World


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writerpatrick



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:10 pm Reply with quote
I'm inclined to describe this show as Hell Girl with food. The show seems to be episodic and deals with the story of a different customer each episode. It seems like it has the potential to go somewhere but never does. I can't see how they could sustain this show longer than 12 episodes, although they could try.
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BethanyP



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Yazu13 wrote:
It's a relaxing show with an interesting premise, though at times it feels lacking in ambition. I feel like the stories could have more of an emotional payoff, especially after watching episode 3 with the princess who lost her grandfather, and she had memories of him taking her to Restaurant Nekoya as a kid. After she finds her way back to the restaurant, the whole time I'm thinking she's going to start tearing up or asking the chef about him, but she just sits there, eats a parfait while describing the flavors, and has a few flashbacks. Then she leaves in virtually the same demeanor as she entered and falls asleep.

I felt there was a lot of wasted potential. Like she would close the restaurant door behind her then lean on it and start crying, like she was able to reclaim a lost, happy memory of her grandfather. I hate to be a back-seat watcher, but that's how I would've had the scene play out.


It's a fair point. When it comes to storytelling, Natsume's Book of Friends it ain't. The first half of episode 4 was downright drowning in narration, frankly. And then the second half suffers from much the same problem as episode 3 - there's this business about anniversary of mother's death, etc, which doesn't really go anywhere because the story keeps revolving around the food porn.

I don't know, I really want to like this anime, but this week I was bored again
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Yeah this episode was the weakest, I'm glad there doing more world building, but they rely far too much on narration. The world building could also focus more on culinary side of the culture, we saw the lizardman try to make omelette but failling, but that was about it, what do they normally eat and how do they cook it? They could have some sequence where the chef talk to the lizardman about there usual cooking style and such. (on a side note, them eating crocodile is no weirder than us eating cow, mammal eating mammal versus lizard eating lizard).

Also, is salad not considered a meal in japan? The way the elf acted made it seems like a meal without meat is unheard of in japan and he ended up serving her a tofu, ie meat substitute rather than something like say a Ceaser salad or maybe some vegetarian sushi.
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ultimatehaki



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Restaurant to Another World isn't really making the most of its potential, and it needs to get on that soon.


I feel the same way too. Would really love to focus more on the main girls' everyday life or at least for a plot to rear its head in somewhere.
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But what kind of plot would would there be? I don't think much action, involving the lead at least, would be fitting with the tone of the story and his character. It doesn't seem like the restaurant would be under threat to close down on any front. You don't have to have any specific idea of what they should do to reasonably criticize the show, but it doesn't make the case very compelling for someone who doesn't feel that it has to have an overarching plot and that having plot would automatically be better.

Is anyone familiar with the source? If that is largely episodic, I don't know how much the show writers can add it if it isn't there.
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(And is anyone else a little weirded out that they eat lizards and other reptiles?)

No it's perfectly logical. What do big fish eat? Smaller fish. The beautiful simplicity of nature.

And a show of hands, who was shocked that the haughty elf was vegan? No one? Yeah I thought as much. With recent advances in the dark arts we've even managed to create such unholy treats as vegan ice cream, but at great cost. (Literally, the price per ounce is through the roof.) The flavor is all right, that is, if you like the taste of evil.
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BethanyP



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:11 pm Reply with quote
zrnzle500 wrote:
But what kind of plot would would there be?


Well, compare Natsume's Book of Friends. That's pretty much episodic as well with very slow overall plot progress - but each episode is usually a nicely crafted short story with its own arc.

Here's one plot hook being ignored - Aletta herself. Isn't she supposed to face prejudice in the other world? And yet no-one from the other world has so much batted an eye on seeing her horned face welcoming them to the the restaurant. What does she do at the end of her shifts? Is she still sleeping in a ruin, or what?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:58 pm Reply with quote
Soo many questions- so nobody but the one businessman has gotten recipies/instructions from our Chef? You would think most of the guests would want to learn his secrets...

and how does the place stay in business? I mean, I can kind of understand the "First visit is free" idea- most of them had no idea what they were going into- but that Lizardman had two giant omlettes for himself, and three more 'party sized' ones to take back to the whole tribe, shoves a bag full of coins at the owner, but he only takes like 2- plus last episode we saw him giving a chest full of 'profits' to the trader...?
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Kendra Kirai



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:53 pm Reply with quote
BethanyP wrote:

I agree. And since everything anyone eats is always awesomely super delicious they're all pretty much rehashes of the last rapturous declaration. Sweetness and Lightning got away with the squeals of "Delicious!" every episode since we at least saw the work that went into it. You don't get the impression that the chef here ever makes a mistake.



That's the thing though, about him never making a mistake - he isn't Soma, and this isn't a shokugeki, he's a professional chef and these aren't actually complex or easy to mess up dishes - they're simply *new* to these visitors, thus, they're amazing and special and an almost impossibly complicated blend of tastes that's only really possible because of the interconnected world and refrigeration.

Each and every one of the dishes we've seen so far can be made at home with access to a decent Japanese market at the most complicated, and he's been doing it for what looks like at *least* a decade, maybe closer to two.

The long descriptions of the taste as well - its part of this newness. A world that has relatively simple foodstuffs and recipes from the necessity of long travel times and no refrigeration, it's tastes that we take for granted. Something as simple as a cheeseburger might be amazing to somebody who's never had ketchup or mustard or beef, let alone together at the same time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:03 pm Reply with quote
HandofBobb wrote:
Soo many questions- so nobody but the one businessman has gotten recipies/instructions from our Chef? You would think most of the guests would want to learn his secrets...

and how does the place stay in business? I mean, I can kind of understand the "First visit is free" idea- most of them had no idea what they were going into- but that Lizardman had two giant omlettes for himself, and three more 'party sized' ones to take back to the whole tribe, shoves a bag full of coins at the owner, but he only takes like 2- plus last episode we saw him giving a chest full of 'profits' to the trader...?


Even if they knew his secrets, a lot of what he makes requires refrigeration, crops that simply don't exist, or methods that we take for granted.

Also, it's not too hard to stay in business - we've seen his place is pretty busy during normal hours, and his entire Other World clientele appears to be about a dozen, for one night a week, and not all of them show up.

Besides, whats he going to do, go to the bank with a handful of obviously foreign-made, yet made by no known country, coins that may not even actually be made of the metal they're named after? Maybe he gets a gemstone or something every few months from that merchant dude to sell, and that's why he's giving him all his other world profits?

He also seems like he just plain likes cooking.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:37 pm Reply with quote
Rebecca Silverman wrote:
And is anyone else a little weirded out that they eat lizards and other reptiles?

I might be if I weren't a scientist.

[Also, reptiles eat other reptile species in real life. Fish eat other fish. Insects eat other insects. Mammals eat other mammals. It's a fact of life. There's nothing strange about it.]
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BethanyP



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:52 pm Reply with quote
Kendra Kirai wrote:
That's the thing though, about him never making a mistake - he isn't Soma, and this isn't a shokugeki, he's a professional chef and these aren't actually complex or easy to mess up dishes - they're simply *new* to these visitors, thus, they're amazing and special and an almost impossibly complicated blend of tastes that's only really possible because of the interconnected world and refrigeration.

Each and every one of the dishes we've seen so far can be made at home with access to a decent Japanese market at the most complicated, and he's been doing it for what looks like at *least* a decade, maybe closer to two.

The long descriptions of the taste as well - its part of this newness. A world that has relatively simple foodstuffs and recipes from the necessity of long travel times and no refrigeration, it's tastes that we take for granted. Something as simple as a cheeseburger might be amazing to somebody who's never had ketchup or mustard or beef, let alone together at the same time.


I don't really buy that a world where people can live in castles and mansions is also one that has such a backwards cuisine that the restaurant's food is instantly the most amazing thing anyone has ever eaten. It makes a certain degree of sense if the visitors are coming from a less well connected society, like the lizardmen, or from a lower social class, but for the high lady living in a mansion?

Your mileage may well vary on that, but even so, it doesn't do any favours for the storytelling. You could easily skip past the monologue because it never adds anything to the story. We already know the characters of the week will consider the food perfect, we know they'll devour it, and will probably order seconds. It's really hard to care when the chef doesn't have to work for that pay off. And that's a shame, because it would be interesting to see him having to adapt to a very foreign palate
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:14 pm Reply with quote
BethanyP wrote:
Kendra Kirai wrote:
That's the thing though, about him never making a mistake - he isn't Soma, and this isn't a shokugeki, he's a professional chef and these aren't actually complex or easy to mess up dishes - they're simply *new* to these visitors, thus, they're amazing and special and an almost impossibly complicated blend of tastes that's only really possible because of the interconnected world and refrigeration.

Each and every one of the dishes we've seen so far can be made at home with access to a decent Japanese market at the most complicated, and he's been doing it for what looks like at *least* a decade, maybe closer to two.

The long descriptions of the taste as well - its part of this newness. A world that has relatively simple foodstuffs and recipes from the necessity of long travel times and no refrigeration, it's tastes that we take for granted. Something as simple as a cheeseburger might be amazing to somebody who's never had ketchup or mustard or beef, let alone together at the same time.


I don't really buy that a world where people can live in castles and mansions is also one that has such a backwards cuisine that the restaurant's food is instantly the most amazing thing anyone has ever eaten. It makes a certain degree of sense if the visitors are coming from a less well connected society, like the lizardmen, or from a lower social class, but for the high lady living in a mansion?

Your mileage may well vary on that, but even so, it doesn't do any favours for the storytelling. You could easily skip past the monologue because it never adds anything to the story. We already know the characters of the week will consider the food perfect, we know they'll devour it, and will probably order seconds. It's really hard to care when the chef doesn't have to work for that pay off. And that's a shame, because it would be interesting to see him having to adapt to a very foreign palate


Well, she knew *about* chocolate, so there's a point at the least, but is it any surprise why wouldn't know what ice cream is? Or bananas? What about whipped cream with that consistency and sweetness?

Again, it's a matter of the newness, and the benefits of being from a society where trade is easy and global, with recipes being traded and refined over centuries.

The Other World appears to be largely Fantasy-Feudal, around what the 15-1600s would've been here (but a hell of a lot cleaner) how many princesses do you think had access to chocolate Parfaits?

Also, like the merchant said, the palettes of the humans are slightly different.

Incidentally, I loved the narration for the lizardman section, since it would make a lot less sense that he'd be talking to himself, and his mastery over the human language would appear spotty at best, despite his relative eloquence among other lizardmen - translation convention and all that. He knows only a few words of Japanese/whatever the humans speak in the Other World; enough to order, thank, ask for more, offer payment.

EDIT TO ADD: if anything, this series seems to be geared towards making one appreciate the food you take for granted, much like those shorts from a few years back....Okachaco-San or something? I need to look that up.

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I'm also hoping we've seen the last of Derpy Deer and her Angry Fawn, because those were some real artistic low points in the second half of this episode.

Man, those rabbits down front during the Running of the Deer scene looked like they were having seizures! Laughing
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Okay, just me then with the lizardman-eating-lizard thing. Laughing I'll own that as my own weird issue and vow never to read and watch two separate stories with very different lizardman cultures at the same time again.
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