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someidiot



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:13 am Reply with quote
This is really interesting. I think Princess Principal strikes a good balance between spy reality and fiction. In my opinion, what the man is saying is in fact the exact commentary that Joker Game was addressing. Alot of people criticized that show for it's lack of characterization and character individuality. How I see it, spies are typical humans. They don't need drama, and they sure as hell cannot draw attention. I look at Joker Game as a case study on the reality of spies, not a drama/adventure/romance/blabla series.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:55 pm Reply with quote
Joker Game was too episodic... it was a series of anecdotes, rather than a real story. It was interesting, but not all that engaging. Princess Principal is much deeper in a lot of ways.

(I've seen a pattern, recently, in anime and in other media, where there will be a show that looks "mature" or "deep" on the outside, but the story, characters, and circumstances are actually really shallow, but then there will also be a bright, cute, moe thing, usually with a prince or princess, that people will assume to be shallow because of those things, but it's actually a lot deeper than the "mature-looking" thing).
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Kadmos1



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:54 am Reply with quote
If this series was made to be as historically accurate for 1880s London espionage as possible, I think it would not be as popular. This is because I think people prefer a balance of spy fiction and reality. However, if they really wanted to make it more accurate, they would opt to have the Japanese speak English with British accents. Not likely to happen.
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yuna49



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:33 am Reply with quote
First, I don't know how anyone can place this show in the 1880's when they are driving around in a car. It seems more like the interwar period to me. Dorothy's automobile looks a lot like the 1931 Duesenberg in this article.



Second, if you want to read about a real young lady involved in espionage, I recommend this recent piece by David Ignatius of the The Washington Post about Jeannie Rousseau de Clarens, a young French woman who worked as a translator for German officers and enticed them into revealing the location of the Nazi's missile facility at Peenemunde.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-diminutive-woman--and-a-spy-who-defined-courage/2017/08/29/963343a2-8ccb-11e7-91d5-ab4e4bb76a3a_story.html
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