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NEWS: Hiro Mashima to be Honored at Harvey Awards at NYCC

It HEAVILY distracted me. Like when Lucy was trapped in that big water bubble and she was suffocating. Hard to give a shit when the camera did nothing besides ogle her crotch and tits. Oh no. Lucy. There is certainty some serious tension here. Tension in my pants that is.

Many people loved at the beginning myself included. Then to cover up for his lack of talent in battle choreography and writing a good story, he resorts to fanservice to attract horny teenage boys and distract them from the obvious flaws in his work. A very convenient plot armor and broken power levels didn't help much but create false suspense of the moment. Because when you know that any death/crisis can just be solved by nakama/family power or other convoluted reasons, investing any sympathy for the characters is pretty much useless.

It started as a story of magic guilds doing adventurer guild-like work, but then somewhere down the line it completely forgets that setting and end up just becoming beat-up-the-bad-guy story. They barely did any magic guild related jobs aside from the few from the start of the story and the fillers.

Mediocre battle choreography, formulaic story, overuse of plot armor/nakama power, unncessary fanservice overload, and forgetting its roots, how the hell can this be an award-worthy manga & mangaka?

I still believe that Naruto is the best shounen of the big 3 (not 4 because FT was never that big imo) and the one worthy of awards. Yes the anime is full of fillers but if you look at the canon story as a whole, it's a damn great story.

I really loved FT in the beginning and the many arcs that followed but the last few arcs was a turn off because it became predictable and almost no one noteworthy dies despite the intensity of the war arc and the thing with Acnologia. Even the one person who died before the final arc doesnt stay dead. Its another way of keeping characters alive without Dragon balls to revive them and Im certain the plot armor on certain characters speaks for itself.

Don't really see why deaths are that important to people. I'd rather have none than bringing them back to life or killing off people who haven't done anything of note in years (see Naruto second half for both).

If any author deserves a award it would be Araki and his 30 years with Jojo.

Yeah well out of the 4 who died in final arc there was someone who was brought back to life and the other 2 didn't even die fighting in the war itself while the other one made you feel a bit sorry for her because she lived through genuinely hard times in the past. There were others as well but they were so sudden and insignificant that it was quickly forgotten about. The fact that the deaths were limited to only them lessens the intensity, the stakes and the danger everyone was in. At least in Naruto Shippuden especially especially during their war there were quite a few notable deaths none of whom were resurrected so there was a genuine feeling of grief and loss. Yes there was a scene where the countless people who died during Pain's invasion were revived but it was more heartwarming than overdone ala Dragon Ball and not everyone who was killed by Pain was resurrected.

In FT when we entered the war arc many fans including myself werent expecting much aside from the formulaic fights intense though some of them were, fan service, usual Nakama speeches and so on. Not even the reveal of Erza's family line surprised many because she's done so many crazy stuff over the years that almost nothing about her surprises anymore. Mashima's writing style becoming predictable and his overuse of Nakama power are what fans are salty about the most. Even Rave Master was more fun and entertaining.

Far more than 4 died, basically half of the Spriggan 12 were wiped out by the end. Only one came back to life in the usual sense but even then it wasn't exactly confirmed that he died, bit like Byakuya in Bleach and his near death in that it could be interpretted either way but never soley confirmed. Bit trollish I admit but yeah. As for the others who met their end they never came back Augusts end was touching, Acnologia met as much as an end as someone of his power could without it being an asspull and Mavis / Zeref was incredibly touching.

I cannot remember any notable deaths during the War in Naruto, like not one and considering how dragged out that was it was surprising. The whole Pain thing beforehand was diluted because of Narutos reaction to him. There were deaths but other than maybe Jiraiya who I didn't particularly care for none were worth caring for.

.... wait.

From the actual press release:

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The reception will also feature Japanese mangaka Hiro Mashima as the Harvey’s International Spotlight guest, in recognition for his renowned work as the creator of Fairy Tail, the long-running manga serial that concluded this year. Original work from both Mashima and Kurtzman will be on display.

It says "International Spotlight Guest". It does not say "Award". The phrasing is different. There's no implication of selection here.

This puts it in a completely different light from ANN's report, and from the commentary on the blog that is ANN's source (which is where I found the press release).

Like I said aside from those 4 the others were so insignificant that they were quickly forgotten. Those 4 I mentioned are the most noteworthy. And Acnologia didn't die he was only sealed away. He was too powerful for anyone to kill so that was literally their only option

No notable deaths in the Naruto war? Really? Neji? Shikamaru and Ino's dads? Madara? Obito? Either you have a poor memory or you didn't watch/read it at all

Tarik Loq wrote:

Are you kidding me? he's created the worst shonen in history and received an award for that? If i was present at the con, i would literally tell him nyself how bad his fairy trash is.

Yeah sure you would pal.

FT is not the worst shounen ever, it's quite popular, sold a lot of copies and had multiple anime and spinoffs, the award is justified.

Augusts end was touching,

Acnologia met as much as an end as someone of his power could without it being an asspull

Mavis / Zeref was incredibly touching.

The so called 'nakama power' was not overused.

It made sense that they powered up over time as their bonds grew stronger.

The War arc had a lot of surprises, I'd argue Erzas family line as well since it seemed she got her major past arc already. Add in all the Zeref storyline wrap ups, the Natsu finale, Augusts identity and more and you've got comprehensive well worked plot threads that were not predictable,

If i was present at the con, i would literally tell him nyself how bad his fairy trash is.