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Peebs
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I always thought this show was about a father trying to wake his girls up in the morning. Never did I imagine it'd be about female idols showing their underwear to their followers. I learned something new today!
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leafy sea dragon
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Wow, I was wondering just how obsessed he was with his characters' underwear. Thanks for taking it for the rest of us so I don't have to get bombarded with his sleaziness. Really, prior to this, I just thought he was a narcissist and couldn't take criticism. The fact that he's complaining about there being no more panty shots? So he's both a sleazebag AND incredibly petty too.
Well, based on what he said in the past, he IS a pretty bitter man.
He successfully crowdfunded his Twilight project, so clearly he still has his fans. How pleasant he actually is to work with, however, is knowledge that's far beyond me. But he seems to have a lot of money (and the ego to go with it), and he has a history of past hits (albeit with some past bombs too), so I'm sure he'd be able to find work every now and then.
The fact is that Yamakan angrily responded to these comments from the voice actors, and that does make him pretty suspicious. If Yamakan kept quiet, then it'd be totally up in the air who made that decision. It's like when there are a group of kids somewhere and a vase gets broken, so you tell the kids that someone broke a vase and one of them blurts out, "I didn't do anything!" Who knows? Maybe Yamakan DIDN'T do anything. But he immediately fired a shot their way after the actors' mention of a lack of underwear shots.
Heh, when I first heard the title, that's what I had in mind too. I would've wanted to see an anime about the wacky hijinks of a dad trying to wake his daughters up so they won't be late for school. He'll try a different technique each episode, and they'll barely get to school on time every time...until the day they're actually late and it breaks his heart. |
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Mr. Oshawott
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Yamakan's difficulty of handling criticism could one day lead to his demise.
At least the visuals of new Wake Up Girls look much more eye-pleasing than the original... |
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BodaciousSpacePirate
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Yeah, I'd watch that. |
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relyat08
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Wow, frankly pretty sad to see people mock this series because of a single panty scene when it's the most respectful and humane portrayal of idols we've got. It'd be great if more people gave it a chance, rather than being so cynical about it.
It's been one episode... Yes, the CG was bad, but don't kid yourself. The first season was horribly animated most of the time. There has been no real technical drop in quality beyond the CG dance scene. Considering the original series has exactly one decently animated dance scene in the entire season though, I can forgive that. Also, people seem to be totally overlooking it for the most part, but there was some really solid character animation in this first episode with a ton of expression. I was certainly impressed.
I've seen enough to know that most of them aren't really my thing(pretty much every one that has any western following at all). And if you think that they aren't almost entirely fanservice(As I noted, that's not just sexy stuff.), you are kidding yourself. I actually kind of like Idolmaster, but it's nothing but fanservice(sakuga, cute and sexy outfits, character types for every fetish, catgirl, foreigner, a little girl who caries her teddy bear everywhere, princess tsundere, etc etc etc). Honestly, idols, by their very nature, are basically just fanservice. |
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DerekL1963
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Maybe I wasn't clear. This has nothing to do with whether or not you 'took' to it. It has everything to do with the broad generalizations and statements you're making about the entire series. You've mistakenly extrapolated from two episodes to the entire series. Or, more bluntly, when you make statements about the entire series, you have no idea what you're talking about because you haven't watched the entire series. |
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Joshua Zarate
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Man, to think that, at one point, he was actually employed at one of the most currently popular anime studios in Kyoto Animation. I really wonder what exactly happened to him in his life to have him be this bitter. Kyoto Animation hiring this man hasn’t been one of their better decisions in their history and good thing that they cut ties with him before he could have done anything else that doesn’t fit their image. He’s been damaging his reputation for a while now and I find it improbable that he will find any success for the future in the anime industry if he keeps being this salty.
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zunderdog24
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I never said the animation in the first season wasn't bad, I said that this season has dropped in quality. As in they made some something that most people agree on that looks bad, look tremendously worse. Say what you will about the first season, but to me it had heart. I dont see heart in this new season, all I see is a doll of its former self. Still love WUG, but not the studio working on it. |
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relyat08
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I mean, you were specifically complaining about the visuals in this season and how they move, in your opinion, "like cardboard cut outs" etc. If you admit the animation in the first season was bad, then this shouldn't even be a complaint. The animation here is, in fact, technically better most of the time(it's not a "drop in quality"). So it seems like a poor point to argue. If you just really hate the character designs(understandable, I wasn't a huge fan at first, but I think they look better in motion than they did in the key visuals, personally), that's a different story, but your complaints seem to be, based on your wording, centered around the way the characters move. Anyway, I loved the first season, but I guess I'm more patient than most because I don't think one episode of this is enough to just say it has no heart. I thought this first episode was solid. And it could easily grow into a satisfying sequel over the course of the season. |
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zunderdog24
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When it looks like they isolated a static image of a charaters head; layered the scene; then proceed to simply move the static image up and down between layers. Then yes, I 100% think this is a drop in quality when contrasted against the first season. It looks lazy and cheap. Sure there are a few moments with good animation, but definitely not enough to warrent "technically better most of the time". |
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Kadmos1
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By now, we can make a drinking game each time a member of that critics trinity (him, Hayao Miyazaki, and Hideaki Anno) says or does something stupid like that. |
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MinatoHikaru
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Sorry, but whoever translated the transcript of the comments by Kayatan, Mayushii and Nanamin has got it completely wrong. And I don't just mean a little bit wrong, the entire meaning has been lost.
Also worth mentioning is that this was not an event, but a very casual live stream on NicoNico. You shouldn't take these comments seriously at all. Kayatan is sort of person who randomly says things like this all the time. In fact I highly doubt Yamakan himself watched the stream and instead went by comments/transcripts from other people afterwards. I didn't bother reading the other replies in the thread and I'm not particularly interested in discussing this, but for those of you who are, it will probably help to actually have the correct transcript of the comments by the voice actresses. Here is the original that is linked in the article (https://twitter.com/animeseiyu/status/913059648265117696) 奥野香耶:聞きたいんだけどさ、ライブシーンでパンツ映るじゃん。あれ嬉しいですか? 吉岡茉祐・山下七海・スタッフ:爆笑 奥野:(コメントは)嬉しくないって人がわりと多い 吉岡:言っておきますが、現実では一切ないです! 奥野:ずっと気になってたの、4年前から 山下:絶対ない(笑) And the correct translation: Kaya: So I want to ask (directed at the viewers of the live stream), you know how there's that scene in Shichinin no Idol (the prequel movie to the TV series) where you can see the girls' underwear? Are you happy to see that? Mayu, Nanami, staff: All burst out laughing Kaya: (Missing from transcript) 'Ah, there are some people who say they were happy to see it, also some who don't mind either way'. Kaya: But there are a surprising number of people in the comments who say they weren't happy to see it. Mayu: Let me just say this, it definitely won't happen in reality (referring to the seiyuu who also sing and dance). Kaya: I've been wondering all this time, since 4 years ago Mayu (still laughing): (Missing from transcript) Good thing you were finally able to ask it! Nanami: Definitely not! (referring to Mayu's comment about the seiyuu) |
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