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GoldCrusader
Joined: 25 Apr 2017
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:27 am
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Smh at the people trying to undermine MHA's great success.
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Angel M Cazares
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:51 am
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Even though season 2 of the anime was not a huge hit, I am happy to see that the Attack on Titan manga continues to be among the best selling.
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ultimatehaki
Joined: 27 Oct 2012
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 3:40 pm
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This doesn't count digital sales does it? Only physical I'm assuming
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TasteyCookie
Joined: 19 Jan 2017
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:58 pm
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angelmcazares wrote: | Even though season 2 of the anime was not a huge hit, I am happy to see that the Attack on Titan manga continues to be among the best selling. |
I'm actually thinking this is part of the reason why Season 2 sold so poorly. Season 1 of the anime boosted the sales of the manga so much that everyone who wanted to stay caught up with the story, already was by the time S2 came out. Manga that tend to sell in the millions tend to have poor disc sales for their anime adaptations, since the Japanese fans are content with owning the manga and not double dipping on the anime. There are a couple of exceptions of course, but most of the heavy hitters had really poor disc sales. (ie: One Piece, MHA, Fairy Tail, Naruto, AoT s2, Sangatsu no Lion, Food Wars, etc.)
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killjoy_the
Joined: 30 May 2015
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:46 pm
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Wyvern wrote: | Speaking of which, what's holding up the third season of Magi? |
Well the manga's over, for one.
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CatSword
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:27 pm
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Kingdom is the only series on this list without a North American publisher and I’m not really sure why. It’d be quite the commitment at this point, but it’d sell.
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Monster Hunter
Joined: 29 Jan 2014
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:19 pm
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CatSword wrote: | Kingdom is the only series on this list without a North American publisher and I’m not really sure why. It’d be quite the commitment at this point, but it’d sell. |
Whoever finally publishes it in the U.S. definitely has my money. I want to buy the published volumes in the U.S.
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bigivel
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:22 am
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TasteyCookie wrote: |
angelmcazares wrote: | Even though season 2 of the anime was not a huge hit, I am happy to see that the Attack on Titan manga continues to be among the best selling. |
I'm actually thinking this is part of the reason why Season 2 sold so poorly. Season 1 of the anime boosted the sales of the manga so much that everyone who wanted to stay caught up with the story, already was by the time S2 came out. Manga that tend to sell in the millions tend to have poor disc sales for their anime adaptations, since the Japanese fans are content with owning the manga and not double dipping on the anime. There are a couple of exceptions of course, but most of the heavy hitters had really poor disc sales. (ie: One Piece, MHA, Fairy Tail, Naruto, AoT s2, Sangatsu no Lion, Food Wars, etc.) |
One Piece Log Collection DVD volumes sell around 10k copies right now and have an average of 40k copies per volume.
So I wouldn't include One Piece in your list.
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AutoOps007
Joined: 03 Jan 2014
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:27 pm
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CatSword wrote: | Kingdom is the only series on this list without a North American publisher and I’m not really sure why. It’d be quite the commitment at this point, but it’d sell. |
I think the Kingdom manga kinda got popular too late, so it would be quite risky at this point. Most US manga publishers wouldn't want to commit to a manga series 50 volumes long (when they haven't even started yet). They'd be over 50 volumes behind, and a lot of fans won't buy it cause they're so far behind, it would take over 10 years to catch up. And who knows if the series will still be popular by then, and if fans would be committed for that long. And Kingdom isn't as popular in the west as it is in Japan (it's popular, but it's name isn't ingrained into the fandom like let's say Death Note, Conan or Jojo). I'm sure it's popular enough to get licensed, but it's doubtful whether there are enough diehard fans to support it and commit to it for at least 10 years. It would probably sell in the beginning, but who knows if it can sustain sales over a long period of time. And given the fact they're gonna be so far behind, it'll probably only sell ok at best, and at that point you would need to question; is it really worth the investment of that much time and resources, when it's most likely only going to be an ok seller?
This is also why Hajime no Ippo was never licensed, cause they'd be so far behind. And really, unless you're in the top handful in terms of popularity like Attack on Titan, Naruto, One Piece, Fairy Tail (this one's much more popular in the west), they won't speed up the release. And even if they do speed up releases, best case scenario would be a volume a month, and in that case it would still take at least 6-7 years for Kingdom to catch up.
Outside of very rare exceptions, the timeframe for a manga to licensed would have to be within the first 20-30 volumes. If you're gonna be over 40 volumes in, you're gonna have to be very popular in the west. Of course some series that already ended get picked up, but that's usually for old classics or series less than 50 volumes, and in either case, be very popular in the west.
Also, as much as people write off the anime, the fact that no one cared about it does hurt it's brand no matter how you look at it. So even if it's popularity is high, the anime flopping can and will deter people (particularly the people in power). If they were to do another anime and it does well, there's a good chance it could get licensed, but I doubt they would do another anime since the manga's already selling well and the previous anime flopped.
We would all love for it to get licensed, but there are some series you just gotta accept will probably never will be.
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KH91
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:13 pm
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OP domination once again. Congrats to Oda.
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