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Lactobacillus yogurti
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Considering that, I have a question about the opposite: How high is the percentage of eating disorders in Japan?
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Yunho
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really interesting to hear that for a woman a 90cm waist is recommended for medical counseling, here in the us my waist is about 84 cm and im still a woman's small / medium
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Chrysostomus
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There's no powerful far-reaching multi-million lobby in Japan pushing for the acceptance of obesity. Even though Japan is one of the most prosperous and wealthy nations on the planet, it seems that the overly-sensitive, professional offense-takers who thrive on the most first-world of first-world problems do not have a foothold in the country.
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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I should've been clearer - I am absolutely speaking only to my experience as a tourist. "As an overweight tourist, you'll be OK" was what I was saying. I obviously cannot speak to the experience of someone from that culture and would defer to someone like yourself for that; thank you for sharing your experience here. |
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EducatedRuffian
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Please tell me how you lost the weight!!!! And in anime as a whole, my weight is the whole reason why I'm afraid to cosplay. |
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pauladls
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In the real life too
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Siegfriedl88
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like hypothyroidism, which my mom has. I was 274 and now 148, but its not easy too lose weight, i have an OCD personality and even 5 calories in a sugar free gum affects me, sometimes i felt happier before i lost the weight and didn't count each calorie. |
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CrispyCritter
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That sounds like a huge impact for the program. Being able to stay about constant in this time period is amazing. The United States went from about 31% to 38% in this time period? (this is rough interpolation from graphs, and I'm not sure of the exact dates.) So in other words, just the increase in the US rate is about twice the entire Japanese rate! It's especially amazing given the population that grew up in the WWII and occupation era scarcity is dying off from old age. All those people learned to eat less from necessity. |
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MaskOfBrutality
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Don't want to be mean but I'm a bit puzzled as to why the question was asked as the answer to anyone should be obvious, even taking aside the cultural differences fat people have been mocked for as long as I can remember in every medium. I guess if you're a lot younger then you probably missed that stuff in media though.
Sure it's less so now in the western culture of being offended by everything and 'fat acceptance' but they can be mocked like any other person or any shape, size, etc. I was fat once (for a damn long time), being shamed, laughed at etc. pushed me into losing weight and I am glad for that, I would not have changed without it. It turned my life around and was fairly easy to do from my perspective. It is not the same for everyone granted but if it doesn't make you want to lose weight and are still offended then grow a thicker skin. Learning a bit more about Japans attitudes to obesity and what they've done though just puts us western countries to shame really. |
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PurpleWarrior13
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The weight-loss episode of Sailor Moon is a perfect example of this. In the original Japanese version, Usagi was pressured by Luna to loose weight, even though she wasn’t remotely heavy. In the North American DiC version, it was changed to Luna mocking “Serena” for being too obsessive over her weight. The difference is interesting. The Viz dub sort of found a balance between the two.
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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Culture is one thing. On an individual level, shaming someone for being fat because you perceive them as lazy or worthless is not a position of enlightened intelligence or superiority, it's standard self-aggrandizement. Just plain old insecure, hollow elitism masked as "just telling it how it is". Those people posture as though they were personally selected to determine who among us is worth drawing air and who isn't - we have people showing that attitude in this thread. I hope the overweight people who have the misfortune of encountering some of you have the good sense to understand they don't need to listen to a word you say.
I heard it all the time when I was fat. People I knew would share straight-up homicidal fantasies they had toward fat people, how they should all die. After I lost the weight, people talk about fat people to me like they're subhuman, assuming I agree with that. It's a sickness, the depths to which people allow themselves to hate someone and dehumanize them because of how they look. Deciding an entire population of human beings is "worthless" because they don't meet your personal standard for physical beauty or fitness is laughable hubris at best, indistinguishable from bigotry at its worst. |
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Scalfin
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This is partly the Japanese being short and partly the nature of geometry. If my math is correct, v=1/(6*(pi^2))(c^3), such that it takes a lot of volume to make up an inch of waistline and every additional inch represents a lot more fat than the inch before it. Note that this math holds best for spherical people. |
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xchampion
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I've struggled with weight myself and still do, but other than not agreeing with that metabo law or whatever, the Japanese seem to be doing something right about obesity. Only 3.5 percent of the country being fat is a great statistic. That's one of the things I hate about the US. I'm all for about loving your body and being self empowering, but using that as an excuse to stay fat or even gain weight grinds my gears. I also understand medical reasons like thyroid issues causing weight gain and not being able to lose weight. Those that don't have medical reasons really have no excuse. It may seem harsh, but it's reality. You don't even have to exercise, but just eating less and cutting out soda does wonders. I'd rather not go into a how to because it's different for everyone, but losing weight is possible. Even surgery is an option I'm totally for too, even tho some call it a cop out. All Im saying is I hate excuses because they're plenty of ways to do it. Just find your way and stick to it. I could go on, but I have cut myself off somewhere. Haha.
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Angel Investor
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I disagree about Western shows being kinder toward obesity. Just off the top of my head, shows like The Simpsons and South Park must have literally hundreds of jokes at fat people's expense.
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LouieKablouie
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While I don't align myself with any sort of movement or am I sensitive to being called fat. The fat joke characters are just so boring on the same league as misunderstandings and fart jokes. It's just an archetype that's not exciting to me just like the tsundere or aloof/distant teenage protagonist.
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