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Greed1914
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:37 pm Reply with quote
The commentary tracks involving the ADR director and engineer tend to be among the most interesting, if you ask me. The technical detail, and the fact that they are involved with most, if not all, of the recording process, gives them plenty to talk about.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:06 pm Reply with quote
Something I've always been mildly curious about - how does one get a job in audio editing/designing/engineering (I don't even know what you would call it)? Do you go to sound school (lol) or do you take some classes at film school or what? Or do you just learn to mix music and figure out voice work and sfx from there?

I feel like these are some stupid questions, but it seems like there are so many resources for wannabe animators, actors and musicians... nobody gets excited about sound that way, so it's hard to find any information about how it all works.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:02 pm Reply with quote
Wasn't the Patlabor TV series dub mostly directed by the ADR engineer? That's what I've always heard.

This job is incredibly challenging enough, but I wonder what it was like back in the 90s when everything was still on tape. Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:25 pm Reply with quote
While it is true the importance of an ADR engineer is often overlooked, one thing to remember is if they were not credited at all in the dub credits, they would be even more unsung.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:42 pm Reply with quote
PurpleWarrior13 wrote:
This job is incredibly challenging enough, but I wonder what it was like back in the 90s when everything was still on tape. Shocked
It is possibly that they would have job roles that do not exist any more to fill certain roles that are automatic now.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:31 pm Reply with quote
rizuchan wrote:
Something I've always been mildly curious about - how does one get a job in audio editing/designing/engineering (I don't even know what you would call it)? Do you go to sound school (lol) or do you take some classes at film school or what? Or do you just learn to mix music and figure out voice work and sfx from there?

I feel like these are some stupid questions, but it seems like there are so many resources for wannabe animators, actors and musicians... nobody gets excited about sound that way, so it's hard to find any information about how it all works.


A local community college here has an associate's degree program for sound mixing/mastering/engineering. A friend's brother did that program and now works at Skywalker Ranch on occasion on very very big tentpole movies. It can be done!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:47 pm Reply with quote
rizuchan wrote:
Something I've always been mildly curious about - how does one get a job in audio editing/designing/engineering (I don't even know what you would call it)? Do you go to sound school (lol) or do you take some classes at film school or what? Or do you just learn to mix music and figure out voice work and sfx from there?


Don't LOL, that's a real thing! Many colleges have sound engineering programs. A lot of musicians go through those programs because it's a good day job with skills applicable to their actual passion. In fact, a huge number of audio engineers are former/current musicians.

PurpleWarrior13 wrote:
Wasn't the Patlabor TV series dub mostly directed by the ADR engineer? That's what I've always heard.


I can personally verify that this was the case.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:52 pm Reply with quote
rizuchan wrote:
Something I've always been mildly curious about - how does one get a job in audio editing/designing/engineering (I don't even know what you would call it)? Do you go to sound school (lol) or do you take some classes at film school or what? Or do you just learn to mix music and figure out voice work and sfx from there?

I feel like these are some stupid questions, but it seems like there are so many resources for wannabe animators, actors and musicians... nobody gets excited about sound that way, so it's hard to find any information about how it all works.


I did sound engineering as part of a popular music degree. Obviously I specialised in music rather than plain vocals but there's a lot of crossover.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:30 pm Reply with quote
I met ADR engineer Stephen Hoff at a local anime convention a few years ago. He came along with his wife, one Terri Doty, but did a couple panels on audio work. He looked perpetually exhausted through most of the weekend. One of the things he pointed out was that it's hard to "turn off" when you get into this line of work, you're always on and you notice every little audio quirk when watching TV or movies or listening to music.

rizuchan wrote:
Something I've always been mildly curious about - how does one get a job in audio editing/designing/engineering (I don't even know what you would call it)? Do you go to sound school (lol) or do you take some classes at film school or what? Or do you just learn to mix music and figure out voice work and sfx from there?

Any school that does online courses or broadcasts to satellite locations should have a course on audio engineering since it's usually the students working behind the scenes on these productions.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:36 am Reply with quote
Many thanks for Justin and the person that submitted the question for recognizing the importance of an ADR engineer.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:18 pm Reply with quote
Greed1914 wrote:
The commentary tracks involving the ADR director and engineer tend to be among the most interesting, if you ask me. The technical detail, and the fact that they are involved with most, if not all, of the recording process, gives them plenty to talk about.


true enough.

from this info , the jist is that an ADR engineer basically make sure that there voices are in sync as well as making sure there is no flip flaps with the voices which was a problem back in the 90's. have i got it right?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:01 am Reply with quote
jr240483, while I don't know how common the lip flap thing was in the 1990s, but the ADR engineer is perhaps even more important than the dub director when it comes to technical issues. Heck, one might argue that without the ADR engineer, the dub might not happen (from a recording and technical standpoint).
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