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Di_297



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:43 am Reply with quote
mrsatan wrote:
Seriously people, Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro was arrested for actually having sex with a minor and Shonen Jump took him back. He later created TORIKO and y'all watched/read that and enjoyed it and never said anything.

I might read this or I might not when it is collected. I know I'm not going to let guys on the internet guilt trip me into making my choice.


But he actually paid for what he did and the girl was 2 years away from adulthood so she could even say she is legal and you could believe it unlike the whole CP thing, Watsuki knows the kids in the videos are kids that are being forced to do what they do and he didn't get his manga cancelled or was put in jail, like it or not the guy is a [expletive] privileged pedo.
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Di_297



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:47 am Reply with quote
kiminobokuwa wrote:
This comment section is so gross. People are defending child porn lol. It doesn't matter what country it is in, child porn is child porn!!! The fact that some of u want to sweep this undernthe rug because you want a manga to continue is laughable at best. Holy crap. This is why anime fans get such a bad rap, it's because of situations exactly like this. He WAS FOUND GUILTY. A child's life was ruined because he funded that digusting act. Get off your high horse people. This manga should crash a burn for all I care.


It's because of this kind of people that lolicon and shotacon exist, they support that kind of sh*t and don't care about anything else but their own enjoyment and the ones that make it don't care about anything but the money they can get from the people that support it.
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dark_bozu



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:57 am Reply with quote
I'm stunned because of some people judgements. Are you seriously mixing actual rape with watching some DVDs? Are you sane?
"But he used his money that he earned with royalties to buy child porn" - welp, he's got shit taste, but he haven't ruined any child life, unlike Polanski. He haven't violated any right of any human. So I can't understand why people think that he should be put in prison where actual scums that raped kids are jailed. A fine is a good punishment for storing something illegale for personal use, if you haven't done anything more than that.
I think the real scums that should be executed are "actors", "directors" that made those DVDs and parents that sold out their children.
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kiminobokuwa



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:58 am Reply with quote
Di_297 wrote:


It's because of this kind of people that lolicon and shotacon exist, they support that kind of sh*t and don't care about anything else but their own enjoyment and the ones that make it don't care about anything but the money they can get from the people that support it.


Right!?!? This is so uncomfortable. Why are peoole defending this man like he was only accused of this!?!? HE WAS CHARGED AND SENTENCED (a fine is a light sentence but whatever). Yet people are praising his return and some are even defending the making of the child porn. What!?!? Where are the mods to erase this when you need them to do so??
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kiminobokuwa



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:02 pm Reply with quote
dark_bozu wrote:
I'm stunned because of some people judgements. Are you seriously mixing actual rape with watching some DVDs? Are you sane?
"But he used his money that he earned with royalties to buy child porn" - welp, he's got shit taste, but he haven't ruined any child life, unlike Polanski. He haven't violated any right of any human. So I can't understand why people think that he should be put in prison where actual scums that raped kids are jailed. A fine is a good punishment for storing something illegale for personal use, if you haven't done anything more than that.
I think the real scums that should be executed are "actors", "directors" that made those DVDs and parents that sold out their children.


Do you even know why child porn exsists?? It's because of people like that author buys it!! It doesn't matter if he never touched the child in any way, HIS MONEY PAID THE PEOPLE WHO HURT THE CHILD. He was supporting what they do. HIS MONEY GAVE THEM THE FUNDS TO KEEP DOING WHAT THEY DID. Get out of here with your BS logic.
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xchampion



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:05 pm Reply with quote
kiminobokuwa wrote:
Di_297 wrote:


It's because of this kind of people that lolicon and shotacon exist, they support that kind of sh*t and don't care about anything else but their own enjoyment and the ones that make it don't care about anything but the money they can get from the people that support it.


Right!?!? This is so uncomfortable. Why are peoole defending this man like he was only accused of this!?!? HE WAS CHARGED AND SENTENCED (a fine is a light sentence but whatever). Yet people are praising his return and some are even defending the making of the child porn. What!?!? Where are the mods to erase this when you need them to do so??


It's because that would be censorship. Unless someone is attacking another people personally ANN usually lets these comment threads continue for a while. I'm diasppointed you support censorship when someone's opinion differs from your own.
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kiminobokuwa



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:10 pm Reply with quote
xchampion wrote:
kiminobokuwa wrote:
Di_297 wrote:


It's because of this kind of people that lolicon and shotacon exist, they support that kind of sh*t and don't care about anything else but their own enjoyment and the ones that make it don't care about anything but the money they can get from the people that support it.


Right!?!? This is so uncomfortable. Why are peoole defending this man like he was only accused of this!?!? HE WAS CHARGED AND SENTENCED (a fine is a light sentence but whatever). Yet people are praising his return and some are even defending the making of the child porn. What!?!? Where are the mods to erase this when you need them to do so??


It's because that would be censorship. Unless someone is attacking another people personally ANN usually lets these comment threads continue for a while. I'm diasppointed you support censorship when someone's opinion differs from your own.


No, i don't support censorship. But the only opinion that is opposite of mine in this situation is defending child porn which clearly some of these people in the forum thinks. And honestly, i don't care. This is not some run of the mill scandal where he was caught with his pants down or anything this is about CHILD PORN AND PEDOPHILA which some people in this thread thinks is okay. You don't find that disturbing??
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dark_bozu



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:11 pm Reply with quote
kiminobokuwa wrote:

Do you even know why child porn exsists??

Yes, because of scums that exploit weak people with mental issues.

kiminobokuwa wrote:

It's because of people like that author buys it!! It doesn't matter if he never touched the child in any way, HIS MONEY PAID THE PEOPLE WHO HURT THE CHILD. He was supporting what they do. HIS MONEY GAVE THEM THE FUNDS TO KEEP DOING WHAT THEY DID. Get out of here with your BS logic.

In normal, civilized world pedophiles are treated as people with mental issues and supposed to have a medical treatment, not a prison sentence, unless they actually raped a child. Calm down and think rationally.
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tentensan



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:13 pm Reply with quote
This forum is disgusting. You guys are actually defending this disgusting man because he made a manga you like??? Oh my good god. I don't care how much nostalgia points this guy has on you, defending him and supporting his works is the worst at this point. He not only got a slap on the wrist for a punishment for his crimes he committed and was CONVICTED FOR, but now he can continue his works like it never happened. And you guys are using excuse convicted pedophiles use when they're caught with child porn. I'm shocked but not surprised. This is why the anime community gets such a bad hand, because people like most of these commenters defending a convicted man who owned CHILD PORN, is saying just to "forget about it". No. No. No. I want this man to pay for his crimes! Did he touch children in an abusive way? No. Maybe not. But he bought the porn that helped fund the harming of children. Which I could never get behind. Ya'll are wild with the loopholes you're willing to jump through to defend this man.
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kiminobokuwa



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:19 pm Reply with quote
dark_bozu wrote:
kiminobokuwa wrote:

Do you even know why child porn exsists??

Yes, because of scums that exploit weak people with mental issues.

kiminobokuwa wrote:

It's because of people like that author buys it!! It doesn't matter if he never touched the child in any way, HIS MONEY PAID THE PEOPLE WHO HURT THE CHILD. He was supporting what they do. HIS MONEY GAVE THEM THE FUNDS TO KEEP DOING WHAT THEY DID. Get out of here with your BS logic.

In normal, civilized world pedophiles are treated as people with mental issues and supposed to have a medical treatment, not a prison sentence, unless they actually raped a child. Calm down and think rationally.


No. Just. No. I won't deny that some people have mental issues. I get it, some people have a hard tome controling themselves and should seek help. But you're only thinking about this in ONE perspective. What about that child?? Should they not get justice for what happened to them? And a lot of people relapse, A LOT OF THEM DO. And them paying the people is just as bad as doing the harm. This man is not someone who happened to stumble across the cjold porn. He actively seeked out the porn and paid for it with his own money. He did not claim any mental issues or anything. Your logic makes no sense. You want to talk about people with mental iasues. Go ahead, BUT THIS MAN WAS NOT MENTALLY ILL. HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING AND THE FACT THAT HE'S GOING BACK TO WORK PROVES SO. Seriously!?!? He was found guilty, there is NO WAY to twist that up to fit your nareative dude. None whatsoever. Like come on, not every single child rapist is mentally ill.
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AiddonValentine



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:24 pm Reply with quote
dark_bozu wrote:
I'm stunned because of some people judgements. Are you seriously mixing actual rape with watching some DVDs? Are you sane?
"But he used his money that he earned with royalties to buy child porn" - welp, he's got shit taste, but he haven't ruined any child life, unlike Polanski. He haven't violated any right of any human. So I can't understand why people think that he should be put in prison where actual scums that raped kids are jailed. A fine is a good punishment for storing something illegale for personal use, if you haven't done anything more than that.
I think the real scums that should be executed are "actors", "directors" that made those DVDs and parents that sold out their children.


He actively contributed and perpetuated those problems by buying those DVDs. This is not complicated, the man knew what he was doing. If he didn't want to have that hanging over his head he never should have done it in the first place. He does not get to live this down.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:27 pm Reply with quote
AiddonValentine wrote:
dark_bozu wrote:
I'm stunned because of some people judgements. Are you seriously mixing actual rape with watching some DVDs? Are you sane?
"But he used his money that he earned with royalties to buy child porn" - welp, he's got shit taste, but he haven't ruined any child life, unlike Polanski. He haven't violated any right of any human. So I can't understand why people think that he should be put in prison where actual scums that raped kids are jailed. A fine is a good punishment for storing something illegale for personal use, if you haven't done anything more than that.
I think the real scums that should be executed are "actors", "directors" that made those DVDs and parents that sold out their children.


He actively contributed and perpetuated those problems by buying those DVDs. This is not complicated, the man knew what he was doing. If he didn't want to have that hanging over his head he never should have done it in the first place. He does not get to live this down.


He kinda did not live this down tho. There's a lot of people boycotting him and he paid a fine. Mad
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russ869



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:28 pm Reply with quote
tentensan wrote:
This is why the anime community gets such a bad hand, because people like most of these commenters defending a convicted man who owned CHILD PORN, is saying just to "forget about it".

These opinions are not unique to "the anime community." Nobody is saying "forget about it." A criminal should face his punishment, but the punishment must fit the crime. The reason worse crimes must have worse sentences (and as a corollary lesser crimes must have lesser sentences) is to create a greater disincentive for people to commit worse crimes. Calling for a worse sentence simply because a criminal is famous is impractical and in opposition to orderly criminal justice.
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dark_bozu



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:49 pm Reply with quote
kiminobokuwa wrote:
Your logic makes no sense. You want to talk about people with mental iasues. Go ahead, BUT THIS MAN WAS NOT MENTALLY ILL. HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING AND THE FACT THAT HE'S GOING BACK TO WORK PROVES SO. Seriously!?!? He was found guilty, there is NO WAY to twist that up to fit your nareative dude. None whatsoever. Like come on, not every single child rapist is mentally ill.

Yeah, but your logic definitly makes sense and you for sure have an evidence that this man doesn't have any mental illness and doesn't went to psychologist.

kiminobokuwa wrote:
Like come on, not every single child rapist is mentally ill.

If I love Saw movies would that make me a murder and psychopath? Would you put someone like that in jail?

kiminobokuwa wrote:

No. Just. No. I won't deny that some people have mental issues. I get it, some people have a hard tome controling themselves and should seek help. But you're only thinking about this in ONE perspective. What about that child?? Should they not get justice for what happened to them?

Like I wrote, of course this is awful, but the one at guilt - are parents and "crew" that made those DVDs. They wanted to make profit out of it by exploiting people with mental issues. And I would execute them without mercy, because they've ruined children's lives because of their greed.

kiminobokuwa wrote:

And them paying the people is just as bad as doing the harm.

Nope, the degree of harm much (MUCH) lower, so this should be taken is consideration. I'm not saying he's innocent, but I think that a fine a suitable punishment for what he did.

kiminobokuwa wrote:

He did not claim any mental issues or anything.

Are you sure? An acquaintance of mine wasn't thinking he's a drug addict until it was too late...
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ZODDGUTS



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:49 pm Reply with quote
It's one thing to separate an artist with his work because he may be a jerk or have different views on religion and politics that don't aligned with yours, but real CP is a whole nother level that you just can't ignore. People saying "What's the harm, he didn't harm any kids!" Except he has by proxy, he is supporting a demand for real CP to be made by giving money to the people who made those CP videos, resulting in more CP being made harming those children, and from what I read he spend a crapload of money on it.
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