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The Gundam Plot Coherency Scale

And in that second sentence you perfectly dismantled your entire counter point. If a term is not adequately defined, it will always be possible to say that the criteria are not met. It would just be a he said / she said situation which goes absolutely no where.

That doesn't make sense though and undermines the entire point of the box. spoiler[Now I agree that they killed him because he was a liability, and maybe he did know who hired him. However, what you're suggesting is infinitely more damning than some clause nobody even knew would ever matter. This creates a massive issue if he could prove that. Why would the blackmail even involve the box at that point? If you could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the entire Federation government was created through mass assassination, that would likely have caused immediate revolt and withdrawal. Him having any proof of that completely trumps the existence of the box, and while it is possible that he could have had such proof, that would just dump on the story even more.]

Also, for the record, the "Moon Moon arc" in ZZ is two episodes. Two. How is that an "arc"?

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Hmm hmm hmm.......I've gabbed a bit in the past on the subject of the Gundam Z, ZZ, & Char's BluRay releases about Char likely being Tomino's self-insert character and a lot of that tying into his general IRL depression. Really made me wonder when I saw Reconguista in G if his age combined with a lack of a proper insert character ultimately is what contributed to the show's near-schizophrenic pacing and characterisations.

I understand G-Reco isn't the easiest show to follow, but writing it off as "Tomino is a craaaaaayyyzzyyyyy old person!!!" is just a frustrating to me as going "This one sucks because Tomino was depressed" or whatever. I mean, like, I get it, not caring for the show because of its presentation, but it seems like people always go to such extremes when blaming Tomino for things. Why isn't "I didn't like the writing" enough?

...and like...I really shouldn't, since it's not like this'll change anyone's opinion, but the pedantic nerd in me has to bite since there's a "why" in there (I can't help iiiiit )

Note that I didn't say "Tomino is a crazy old person", I intended the comment more to imply that the show is lacking any sort of lightning rod/anchoring identity/character/concept/personality. The show reads in a lot of ways like a creative person going "Uhoh, this might be the last time I get to make something - let's use ALL OF IT" ....and then proceeds to try and realise every single concept or desire they've wanted to write about over the course of their career but with lack of focus and oversight. I'd reference The Silmarillion since it's not as easy a read as say The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings.

Don't ever say you doubt the power, consistency, and practicality of the Neo Holland Gundam

Why link SEED and Destiny when you separate out series like the orignal Gundam and Zeta?

Also, I really disagree with the placement of SEED and BF Try. Seed was incredibly coherent to the point it was probably too simple. There has been real life talk about the issues surrounding designer babies. A new generation raised on jealousy and hatred towards the designer babies discriminates against them to the point that they almost all flee to make their own community (totally happened to groups in history). Fanatical terrorists start a war by massacring civilians. The war developments make sense as well. The more moderate factions lose power to the nationalists. Yeah, Kira being there where Strike was and just happening to know Athrun is awful convenient, but the same is true of 0083 which was ranked coherent.

The only real issue the author seems to have with SEED is the neutron jammers, but why? They made some tech, and the same people found a way to counter it. Sure, how they work may not be totally unrealistic. Neither is the fusion reactors powering these suits in some of the coherent series.

How exactly does this lose in coherency to a story where the entire second half of the story is about getting this magical Gundam which will somehow make everyone bow down before it and do what the pilot tells them?

Try should be unlinked and bumped down. BF had some basic consistency with how it works. Try is basically the G Gundam of Build Fighter. I think the fact that G Gundam is way down there pretty well explains why Try is up too high.