Forum - View topicINTEREST: Potential White Supremacist Rally Aligns with Otakon Weekend in DC
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Aura Ichadora
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I know several people planning on going to Otakon, and I really hope they'll be safe. I really don't want to hear that we have a repeat of Charlottesville no matter what happens, and I hope that all con goers will be alright and nothing horrible happens.
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SilverTalon01
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Uh, everyone needs to know about it. You're saying that like white people not associated with the rally would be perfectly safe. A bunch of white people were assaulted in Charlottesville too. You do NOT want to be walking around alone near rallies like that as a white guy either. Sure, the white supremacist trash will leave you alone, but you can guarantee there will be a lot of angry people there protesting the white supremacist rally. |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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By all means you both can stop the childish bickering and derailing. |
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Stuart Smith
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Well, as I said, most of the foreigners in Japan are other East Asians. Your article cites Chinese, Vietnamese and Filipinos which falls in line with that definition. Your article also mentions the view the Western views of immigration being a very undesirable idea among Japanese citizens. But my main point was it seemed obvious why a group that wants a white society for white people would appreciate Japanese society.
Oh definitely. Someone who goes to one of these protests goes at their own risk. Once the fighting breaks out, no one is safe from the violence on both sides. To say nothing of the doxxing afterwards where someone could post your photo on social media and claim you were a white supremacist and nobody asks for proof of that claim before you're fired. -Stuart Smith |
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Egan Loo
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By definition (at least by dictionaries and encyclopedias), Vietnam and the Philippines are grouped in Southeast Asia, as opposed to East Asia.
The context is missing:
It seems that such a desire would come from a misconstrued view of Japanese society. Last edited by Egan Loo on Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:16 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Egan Loo
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Here is a source for the birth rate and another for the population decline: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=US-JP https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/04/13/national/japans-population-shrinks-seventh-consecutive-year-falls-126-70-million/ As to why this is happening ... that's well beyond the scope of this forum thread. |
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zrdb
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Jesus-do these white hitler motherf**kers have to ruin everything for those who don't "agree" with their trumpcentric shit?
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omoikane
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I think that's giving into fear and false equivalency in evaluating actual risk of harm or anything bad that goes down. We are talking about downtown Washington DC. It is not some suburb in NoVa. Be assured any protest like this will be overseen by DC cops, not the failed police force out in Charlottesville, who played a major role as to what happened there. Again, I'm not saying not to report on it, but this is not a responsible way to inform. |
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Top Gun
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I wonder if anyone's ever considered air-dropping copies of Inglorious Basters on one of these vermin gatherings. Maybe they'll get the message.
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manapear
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The comments came out more faceted here than I thought they would. I'm glad some people are acknowledging and looking at this realistically.
To anyone who's going to Otakon and brushing this off? Please don't. It is true that if you look like a cis, White, male, you're less likely to be targeted. (Supposing you're not engaging them or defending others.) But everyone should absolutely be safe. And it's sad to say, but you shouldn't necessarily count on the cops. I don't know how far DC cops swing on the political scale, but there are plenty of racists dems, etc out there. Cops included, and the violence against Black people gets a lot of media attention, but all PoC suffer from violence against cops. Simply put, stay with people you trust, know your surroundings, and do your best to be safe. |
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SWAnimefan
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While I heavily disagree with these people, they do have a right to march. But I really hope everyone at Otakon stay FAR away from the march, because it wouldn't take much for the media to pick up someone in cosplay and immediately make the assumption they are part of the rally. And you can very well expect there will be counter-protesters present, especially Antifa. Which means all hell could break loose.
My best wishes for Otakon for a peaceful event. |
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AiddonValentine
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Well, that's disgusting. Seriously, you'd think after what happened in Charlotteville that the National Park Service would deny these clowns a platform upon which to espouse, but I guess not. This is not to be taken lightly what with Kessler's rep and the history of these kinds of events. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to goad congoers or disrupt Otakon.
To any people attending, this is what I say: watch out for yourself and watch out for each other. And I say make your voice heard about it and say you don't want them organizing near Otakon. |
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all-tsun-and-no-dere
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I'm really disturbed at the number of people in the thread implying that antifa is somehow a greater threat than the actual white supremacists. Antifa hasn't murdered anyone; white supremacists have murdered many in the past few years, including at an identical rally just a year ago.
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SilverTalon01
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Half true. You're less likely to be targeted by the white supremacists. White supremacists also attract a lot of angry protestors, and some of those people are violent enough to go around attacking white people (usually but not always men). So yeah, you're less likely to be targeted by one of the two groups present, but more likely to be targeted by the other group. Walking around there (or any other white supremacist / neo nazi event) thinking that you are safe because you're a white male is incredibly stupid. These are not safe places for anyone no matter what you look like.
If anything happens on the national mall, it will be a national incident on massive scale. Like the other user mentioned, we aren't talking about a rally in the middle of no where that people might think could go unnoticed. |
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Cab329
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*slams on the brakes* I'm sorry, what? The hell does that work? Don't be rude to the white supremacists. It's okay for them to admit to having those hateful opinions (which would be a form of expressing them, so your post is rather contradictory) but don't you be rude to them. So by that logic I guess if someone got on here saying they were a NAMBLA member and posted on the forums, that would be cool as long as they were polite? Or someone who works at a conversion camp? "I don't care what side of the political spectrum you're on" ...Yeah, well maybe you should if you're okay with bigots on here. Sounds like you need to get some standards. And don't bury your complicit policies under a broad "side of the political spectrum" just say "we're cool with bigots. Just don't harass anybody on here, even if by sharing you belong to a bigoted group or movement can make people that belong to those groups you oppose and harass fearful for their safety or feel they don't have support here." TLDR: I like ANN but if it values politeness more than taking bigots to task, then there's something wrong with it and I'm done with it. |
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