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ThrowMeOut
Joined: 10 Oct 2018
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:45 pm
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Wow. Usually Slime looks pretty nice, but the animation on this episode was awful, especially considering it was an arc ending episode. I was expecting an extravaganza, not speed lines and off model characters. A few times the animation was so bad we were laughing, like in the scene where they're all shooting projectiles at a monster clearly hundreds of feet in the air, and there's one orc trying to throw axes that magically disappeared and re-appeared in his hands. I'm hoping this just means they're saving up for a real sakuga-fest down the line.
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NeverConvex
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:50 pm
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GhostD wrote: | Im afraid Im just not the seriously critical type or at least I try not to be |
Ah, well that's OK. I'm 90% uncompromising, monotone, acid criticism and maybe 10% water, so our posts can balance each others' out.
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Hiroki not Takuya
Joined: 17 Apr 2012
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:41 am
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Well, I almost hate being right about having called this two weeks out, but I never imagined the newest Big Bad and a Demon Lord both to go down in just one episode I think it's a new record. Time to bring in the Clowns ! I'm beginning to really like them, they bring life to the show...
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:47 am
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Gina Szanboti wrote: |
Hiroki not Takuya wrote: | ...I think most people who have encountered such people in real life would expect V's reaction to be trying to get get revenge on Kaijin and Rimuru somehow. |
When people irl behave that way it's almost always in service of their own ego and desire for wealth, power and recognition. So when they get outed for bad behavior, they want revenge against whoever outed them and thwarted their personal goals.
Vesta's motivation was different... The only way to get back in Gazel's good graces and earn his trust again would be to change himself, so he changed. Trying to get revenge on anyone would've only made his goal even more unobtainable. |
Well, when V was introduced he had a huge ego, he was abusing his power via his position in the court to pull personal attacks on Kaijin and he clearly was looking for recognition from the king, so it seems to me that you were correct in the first couple of sentences. Since Rimuru enabled Kaijin to keep from being humiliated, he would be prime for a revenge attack along the line of reasoning "if that slime hadn't interfered, I would have gotten Kaijin and none of this would have happened.."
The king having seen through his petty vindictiveness and having been told by the king himself that he was patiently waiting for him to change, there would have been no expectation that he could ever get in good with the king again. So the next best way to soothe the ego is to "get" the source of the problem. That's my take but you have a different perception of V as a person, so let's leave it at that.
@Kitsu Kyouno Not sure what you are communicating, but I'm not trying to equate this show with Shield Hero or thier respective protagonists to each other. Personally, I like Rimuru and think the one thing the show gets right is the believability and reliability of his character. You are right and I think from what we saw of Vesta in Ep5 that he is a bit of a "hater" since he was needlessly hostile not only to Kaijin but Rimuru as well. Trying to "get" Rimuru or hold a grudge against him would be in character but the sudden change doesn't seem consistent with such a person. Since you mention Rimuru's "slime" form as adorable (it totally is!) his shape reminds me of the Staples "easy-button" which may be a visual clue as to why everything in the show is happening as it is...
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SkyLETV34
Joined: 12 Feb 2018
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:49 am
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I actually really liked this episode. My problem with this arc is the build up to this climax, I feel that too many things happened in too few episodes unlike the two previous arcs which were slower and with better pace and this contrast is noticeable.
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Gina Szanboti
Joined: 03 Aug 2008
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:05 pm
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Quote: | Neither Clayman nor the Harlequins bother to show up in person, so we don't get any satisfying closure with them. |
Maybe because we're not done with them?
Quote: | Clayman's absence from this episode suggests that he and his minions are out of the picture for the time being |
I don't see how that follows, even if it turns out to be the case.
Just because the episode ended with "no obvious next step for the series to slide into," doesn't mean there is no next step. It just means they didn't take it yet.
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GhostD
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:07 pm
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Since it was announced that ep 24 would be a side story then the main story ends at ep 23 giving the show 4 eps to cover the next arc which is a fairly long one. I can see them either cutting the next arc to leave it on a cliff hanger for season 2 or rushing it to hell.
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Stampeed Valkyrie
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:14 pm
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That might have been one of the most anti-climatic climax episodes in recent history.
This title has really been getting more and more meh as of late. It started great, and kept up the pace pretty well. This last arc is just fizzling out, I really hope this isn't setting the pace for the final few episodes.
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Merida
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:18 pm
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Quote: | That tone carries over into the episode's second half, where Rimuru and Milim are quick to let Phobio off the hook for his actions. |
What puzzled me more was Phobio's instant switch from revenge-seeking to apologetic. Wasn't hurt pride from getting his ass kicked by Milim his entire reason for falling for the clown's scheme so easily? Then he gets his ass kicked even harder and he's all "oh, i'm so sorry for inconveniencing you" all off a sudden. That just felt rather...abrupt. I did like Carrion and his special form of tough love, though...
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#844391
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:37 pm
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I read the web novel years ago and I honestly don't even remember the Charybdis fight. I do remember it in the manga, but it was either added afterwards or was just so forgettable I can't remember it. But yea, Rimuru only has a couple, truly desperate fights in the whole web novel. It's like 80% him just building his nation and chilling with people , 15% stomping someone who messes with them and 5% actually fighting dangerous enemies.
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Cam0
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:52 pm
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Merida wrote: | What puzzled me more was Phobio's instant switch from revenge-seeking to apologetic. Wasn't hurt pride from getting his ass kicked by Milim his entire reason for falling for the clown's scheme so easily? Then he gets his ass kicked even harder and he's all "oh, i'm so sorry for inconveniencing you" all off a sudden. That just felt rather...abrupt. I did like Carrion and his special form of tough love, though... |
Phobio probably thought he'd become a Demon Lord, instead he lost control and Charybdis took over. He didn't really get his ass kicked, more like he was saved from Charybdis. I think.
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steelmirror
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:08 pm
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This was, unfortunately, my least favorite episode of the show so far. Tortured pacing leading up to anticlimax is not the best way to run an arc. If it weren't for the fact that it's almost over I'd drop a show after a run like that, but I'll see if it gets better for the last few eps.
I second the impression of some pretty poor animation this ep. The ogre pair were distractingly off model in their little "last stand" scene, and the animation loop with Rimuru dodging Charybdis' attacks in the sky that got played like 3 times was hilariously bad. Still, I can forgive bad animation, it's the boring, low effort resolution to an arc that was pretty forgettable in the first place that really got me.
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GhostD
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:54 pm
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#844391 wrote: | I read the web novel years ago and I honestly don't even remember the Charybdis fight. I do remember it in the manga, but it was either added afterwards or was just so forgettable I can't remember it. But yea, Rimuru only has a couple, truly desperate fights in the whole web novel. It's like 80% him just building his nation and chilling with people , 15% stomping someone who messes with them and 5% actually fighting dangerous enemies. |
You dont remember it because it was never there to begin with. This arc was added in the light novels and later the manga.
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Luke's Yu-Gi-Oh! Channel
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:28 pm
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Episode 19 Comments/Feedback
I am really liking the teamwork and the many different ways they are taking the Megalodon's down.
Ragna is flying? Walking on thin air, he continues to amaze me with another new skill.
Milim finally getting called into action, I had a feeling she would eventually.
Oh, she just one shot it even with that restraint she was talking it, well they saved Phobio like he wanted to.
Good thing they now know about the harlequins, they will continue to cause trouble for everyone.
An nap with Carrion is a good result for Rimuru, now to wait for next episode to see what happens next.
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Norm the genius
Joined: 07 Dec 2018
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:54 am
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steelmirror wrote: | This was, unfortunately, my least favorite episode of the show so far. Tortured pacing leading up to anticlimax is not the best way to run an arc. If it weren't for the fact that it's almost over I'd drop a show after a run like that, but I'll see if it gets better for the last few eps.
I second the impression of some pretty poor animation this ep. The ogre pair were distractingly off model in their little "last stand" scene, and the animation loop with Rimuru dodging Charybdis' attacks in the sky that got played like 3 times was hilariously bad. Still, I can forgive bad animation, it's the boring, low effort resolution to an arc that was pretty forgettable in the first place that really got me. |
the main intention of this anticlimax is to show the overwhelming strength of Milim compared to others, also that of, once again destroy the expectations of the audience that continues to ask for serious conflict since this show has never raised tension as its main engine
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