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Shiflan
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:00 pm
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Now that I think about it, isn't it also a trope to sit near the door?
It's been several years since I've watched either show so I might be mistaken, but I seem to remember scenes in both ToHeart and Azumanga Daioh in which certain characters were excited to be assigned seating closest to the classroom door.
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melton80
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:26 pm
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It is actually quite simple, there is less to animate and draw when for the scenes all you gotta do is draw maybe a couple of students and the corner of the room, instead of a ton of students and half a room for entire scenes.
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Karmik
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:47 pm
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Akamaru_Inu wrote: | Not to mention it saves the animators and background artists the trouble of drawing a room full of students in designated seats from different angles. |
This is the real answer. Always follow the money.
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MarshalBanana
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:55 pm
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You also need to sit by the window just in case an important plot even happens outside.
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DerekL1963
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:58 pm
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Seating assignments can literally change your life.
They guys I ended up sitting behind in 3rd period social studies my senior year... Introduced me to AD&D and war gaming. Introduced me to the people that took me to my first SF con and first time to Rocky Horror. They were also SF and ST geeks, the first I'd known in most of a decade. They were both in the AFJROTC at my school and helped convince me that the Navy was a valid career choice. (This was not a popular position in the late 70's - early 80's, and a lot of people were trying to convince me it wasn't.)
I literally would not be who I am today and probably wouldn't be sitting here typing this on an anime site if Charley and Dave hadn't convinced me it was OK to be a nerd. (Unpopular in the redneck neck o' the woods I grew up in. Wasn't shunned or beat up, but wasn't very welcome either.)
Dave sadly passed away young... But nearly four decades later Charley and I are still friends, are friended on FB and still chat regularly.
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Aquasakura
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:09 pm
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^ Wow! Nice things had worked out the way they did Derek.
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Tenchi
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:00 pm
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Zin5ki wrote: | At least WataMote subverted the trend by reallocating its protagonist to a seat antithetical to the windowside ideal, highlighting the disparity in privacy in a rather cruel manner. |
The ongoing WataMote manga also shows that some schools have their classes change seats at least two or three times a year. The chapter due out on the GanGan Online website in a few hours may feature such a seat change. Tomoko said in chapter 135 that there'd be a seat change after Golden Week (mid-spring holiday week around the beginning of May) and the past six chapters have been set during Golden Week so I suspect this chapter will be "back to school".
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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:18 pm
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Windows were frosted in some of my schools.
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MoonPhase1
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:37 pm
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Well just look at My Neighbor Seki. A lot of stuff can happen in the back of the class and the only one who will notice is just the person sitting next to you.
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Wyvern
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:56 pm
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Plus, if your hero is in the back window seat, it can set up a contrast with other characters and help establish their personalities. If there's a kid in the front row who looks happy to be there, then you know right away that person is the hard-studying brainy type (or at least the Class Rep) who actually wants the teacher's attention.
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configspace
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:19 pm
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My high school had assigned teachers to fixed classrooms, with students moving to different classrooms and seats every period..
Are there schools below college level in Japan that operate this way?
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Ouran High School Dropout
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:22 pm
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Zin5ki wrote: | At least WataMote subverted the trend by reallocating its protagonist to a seat antithetical to the windowside ideal, highlighting the disparity in privacy in a rather cruel manner. |
And I can still see Tomoko's freak out in my mind...
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Ouran High School Dropout
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:29 pm
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MoonPhase1 wrote: | Well just look at My Neighbor Seki. A lot of stuff can happen in the back of the class and the only one who will notice is just the person sitting next to you. |
I still want to know how Seki-kun's teachers can be that blind... (But then again, if they did have functioning eyeballs, the series would be over really quick.)
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EricJ2
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:41 pm
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I'd just assumed it was another micro-managed regulation of Japanese classrooms, that once the teacher knows the students by class assignment, it stays that way for the entire semester.
That's probably why class teachers in anime shows make such a big deal of saying "____, why don't you let the new student take the empty desk next to you?" whenever the New Transfer Student shows up at the usual plot development.
In a real-life US school, the reaction would normally be "Uh, yeah, I sort of figured that out, thanks..."
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:14 pm
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#888430 wrote: |
Akamaru_Inu wrote: | Not to mention it saves the animators and background artists the trouble of drawing a room full of students in designated seats from different angles. |
This is the real answer. Always follow the money. |
I'd second that but as another possibility, the presence of a conveniently vacant seat may mean that teachers try to keep students away from the window to reduce distraction and the back (the back row in my school experience is where the waste-o's and delinquents were) so if there were less students than seats, the available ones would be where they are shown.
I had the good fortune to have Kyon's seat or the one up for several grades as I loved to gaze out. My 4th grade teacher ridiculed me for being a "dreamer" because of it and tried to hold me back a grade, but the next year I was tested at 4 grades higher level and I have since had a career as an R&D physicist. Nothing wrong with those seats...
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