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Toonces
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| Яeverse wrote: | | Devalues hidive immensely if they were to enter into some sort of streaming deal TBH, why subscribe in the first place, especially considering how few titles they pick up, and how the titles they do get dont even carry weight enough to really get people to rush out and subscribe anyway, compared to heroaca, and tokyo ghoul, and shingeki. |
If they actually reenter the exact same deal as before then I agree. If HiDive is just going to become what The Anime Network was, I'll cancel my sub. I prefer their approach of getting a few of their own separate stream titles, which I feel usually includes a few gems. They have a good library, but if they're going to only have one or two shows no one cares about then it's not worth keeping the sub regularly.
Not that any deal is set in stone outside of the VRV deal, but if they go back to the way things were I'll pass.
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Angel M Cazares
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:39 pm
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| 64BitRatchet wrote: | | Will Funimation even be able to do 15 simuldubs per season now that they are on their own? |
They will not have to because I doubt they will get that many shows on their own. I imagine Funimation will get around 10 shows per season going forward.
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Lord Vaultman
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:59 pm
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| angelmcazares wrote: |
| 64BitRatchet wrote: | | Will Funimation even be able to do 15 simuldubs per season now that they are on their own? |
They will not have to because I doubt they will get that many shows on their own. I imagine Funimation will get around 10 shows per season going forward. |
Funimation has been on record stating they fully intend to still have the same amount of shows each season. The real question is if they actually meant the same amount of simuldubs. We should know more in winter and spring seasons.
Plus before the crunchyroll partnership they had hit a max of 14-15 simuldubs in one season (summer 2016 I believe)
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Яeverse
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:03 pm
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| angelmcazares wrote: |
| 64BitRatchet wrote: | | Will Funimation even be able to do 15 simuldubs per season now that they are on their own? |
They will not have to because I doubt they will get that many shows on their own. I imagine Funimation will get around 10 shows per season going forward. |
The power of Sony money could enable them to still have enough to attain such a number.
I just hope we dont get a thing where, if its on CR, then Funi is not allowed or uninterested in getting it. Id hate to go back to those days then praying a year or two later a CR exclusive show gets picked up for release.
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Angel M Cazares
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:08 pm
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| Lord Vaultman wrote: |
| angelmcazares wrote: |
| 64BitRatchet wrote: | | Will Funimation even be able to do 15 simuldubs per season now that they are on their own? |
They will not have to because I doubt they will get that many shows on their own. I imagine Funimation will get around 10 shows per season going forward. |
Funimation has been on record stating they fully intend to still have the same amount of shows each season. The real question is if they actually meant the same amount of simuldubs. We should know more in winter and spring seasons. |
That might be their intention, but Crunchyroll also has plenty of money to get a lot of licenses. Each company probably wants to get 25 shows per season, but there are only 35-40 new shows they can choose from. And last time I checked 25+25 does not equal 40.
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Aquasakura
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:28 pm
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Yay! Run with the Wind is coming to home video. While it's still early to decide if the anime is worth buying I have been enjoying the show so far. It ranks as being my 5th most anticipated show of this season so far when I try it out for the first time (I still have more new anime to try out though so that might change).
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paulchaested
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:51 pm
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Serious question: In this particular case, what does the word “license” mean? Does mean Sentai legitimately acquired the master license to this show? Or is this their way of saying “CR sublicensed it to us and we’re distributing it for them”? I was under the impression that CR is the master license holder for this show.
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TheAncientOne
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:08 pm
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| 64BitRatchet wrote: | | Will Funimation even be able to do 15 simuldubs per season now that they are on their own? |
In summer 2016 (when they were still competing with CR) they had 19 new simulcasts, although not all of those were simuldubs.
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configspace
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:13 pm
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| paulchaested wrote: | | Serious question: In this particular case, what does the word “license” mean? Does mean Sentai legitimately acquired the master license to this show? Or is this their way of saying “CR sublicensed it to us and we’re distributing it for them”? I was under the impression that CR is the master license holder for this show. |
They can be separate licenses, although I suppose we wouldn't know for sure until the bluray release. If Sentai's box also has the CR logo/credit on it then it's also from CR. Previous titles shared between CR and Sentai were separate with CR licensing the streaming version only from the licensor and Sentai licensing both with home video independently from CR.
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paulchaested
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:56 pm
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| configspace wrote: | |
They can be separate licenses, although I suppose we wouldn't know for sure until the bluray release. If Sentai's box also has the CR logo/credit on it then it's also from CR. Previous titles shared between CR and Sentai were separate with CR licensing the streaming version only from the licensor and Sentai licensing both with home video independently from CR. |
Right. I suppose we can wait to see the blu rays. It was the only way to tell if CR was the license holder during the partnership with Funi. I know CR used to strictly go for streaming rights only but now they go for the whole package almost all the time now.
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64BitRatchet
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:36 pm
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| TheAncientOne wrote: |
| 64BitRatchet wrote: | | Will Funimation even be able to do 15 simuldubs per season now that they are on their own? |
In summer 2016 (when they were still competing with CR) they had 19 new simulcasts, although not all of those were simuldubs. |
I just checked, they did have 15 broadcast dubs that season. But the season before that they only licensed 5 new shows because they spent most of their money on My Hero Academia. They also had a few from Aniplex and a few continuing.
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64BitRatchet
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:38 pm
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| Lord Vaultman wrote: |
| angelmcazares wrote: |
| 64BitRatchet wrote: | | Will Funimation even be able to do 15 simuldubs per season now that they are on their own? |
They will not have to because I doubt they will get that many shows on their own. I imagine Funimation will get around 10 shows per season going forward. |
Funimation has been on record stating they fully intend to still have the same amount of shows each season. The real question is if they actually meant the same amount of simuldubs. We should know more in winter and spring seasons.
Plus before the crunchyroll partnership they had hit a max of 14-15 simuldubs in one season (summer 2016 I believe) |
I don’t know how, especially since Amazon and Netflix have had a bigger presence during the partnership than they did before.
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Kadmos1
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| Quote: | | for a total run of 217.9 km (about 135.4 miles). |
I wonder if they will use miles in the dub, or stick to the Japanese measurements. |
This brings up a valid point as there are many people in this country who use the metric and many who don't. Considering I have heard metric measurements used in Eng. dubs before, I don't rule out this show's hypothetical Eng. dub using metric measurements.
64BitRatchet, "Space Dandy" was a WInter 2014 simuldub, yes. However, Funi doing a doing at least 2 simuldubs each season started in the Fall 2014. I should have clarified.
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Greed1914
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:06 am
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| SpacemanHardy wrote: | | This makes me wonder if Crunchyroll will try to set up a deal with HIDIVE like they did with Funimation: subs on Crunchy, dub exclusive on HD. |
The problem is that Sentai does not have the capacity to do 15+ simuldubs per season. But a CR-Sentai/HIDIVE partnership seems possible; I just expect Crunchyroll to hire several companies to do dubs. |
Will Funimation even be able to do 15 simuldubs per season now that they are on their own? |
That is a good question. Sony would be able to provide access through a seat on some production committees, and has the financial means to acquire a lot of shows, but I don't know that they'll want to stick with it long-term if it gets expensive. Crunchyroll is going to want sequels to things licensed during the partnership as bad as Funi does, to say nothing of new titles that both think will be hits, so I could easily see it slipping back into the situation that prompted the partnership where licenses get too expensive. For a while, I could see Sony wanting to keep its new acquisition going by providing the necessary funds, but I don't count on it to last.
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Lord Vaultman
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:28 pm
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| angelmcazares wrote: |
| Lord Vaultman wrote: |
| angelmcazares wrote: |
| 64BitRatchet wrote: | | Will Funimation even be able to do 15 simuldubs per season now that they are on their own? |
They will not have to because I doubt they will get that many shows on their own. I imagine Funimation will get around 10 shows per season going forward. |
Funimation has been on record stating they fully intend to still have the same amount of shows each season. The real question is if they actually meant the same amount of simuldubs. We should know more in winter and spring seasons. |
That might be their intention, but Crunchyroll also has plenty of money to get a lot of licenses. Each company probably wants to get 25 shows per season, but there are only 35-40 new shows they can choose from. And last time I checked 25+25 does not equal 40. |
While this situation is far from ideal as others have said funimation has shown the capability plus have Sony in their corner which is a key to an enormous pipeline in Japan.
Plus to help answer your question about number of titles remember that alot of titles crunchyroll gets are shared titles from others (via media shows, aniplex shows) there's no guarantee that those companies won't also start sharing with funimations new service with Sony. So that would also potentially help with the numbers. That's why I was saying they never said the same amount of simuldubs just same amount of shows.
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