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Felicity dash



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:40 pm Reply with quote
I can somewhat relate. The games are fun and actually quite addicting but what sells it for me at least is the equality of the characters. Female characters get the same chances as male characters & it’s relatively cheap to buy items for summoning characters.

And Onmyoji & Food Fantasy seem to be a major fan favorite over at pixiv
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:17 pm Reply with quote
Felicity dash wrote:
I can somewhat relate. The games are fun and actually quite addicting but what sells it for me at least is the equality of the characters. Female characters get the same chances as male characters & it’s relatively cheap to buy items for summoning characters.

And Onmyoji & Food Fantasy seem to be a major fan favorite over at pixiv


But is there a Japanese equivalent?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:45 pm Reply with quote
I think there is a major mistake in the article or something was lost in translation

-Mixi's Monster Strike game has earned US$1.9 billion since 2013 to become the most profitable smartphone game app yet. GungHo Online Entertainment's Puzzle & Dragons has earned US$6.9 billion since 2012.

How is Monster Strike which earner 1.9 bln more profitable than PADs 6.9 bln?
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Felicity dash



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:08 am Reply with quote
Heishi wrote:
Felicity dash wrote:
I can somewhat relate. The games are fun and actually quite addicting but what sells it for me at least is the equality of the characters. Female characters get the same chances as male characters & it’s relatively cheap to buy items for summoning characters.

And Onmyoji & Food Fantasy seem to be a major fan favorite over at pixiv


But is there a Japanese equivalent?


Japanese equivalent of what? If you mean to compare gatcha games, then look on the google play store or Apple`s store.
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I've definitely seen the Chinese mobile games taking the top and rising. Some of them appeal to China of course, but games like Onmyouji use JP culture and are popular across Asia (and parts of the West).

I feel like JP mobile gaming has been on a steady trend of growth, in terms of creativity and all, but I can see how they're going to hit saturation.

Seems like it could all be very complex, but at the end of the day, maybe over-reliance on gacha (and sometimes, brand name?) also hurts some of these games?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:19 am Reply with quote
I don't know what to say, Japan falling its smartphone trend to an Korea and China is no sense to me at all.

Did Korea and China defeated Japan over its smartphone, because they are known for large amount of innovations than Japan had?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:29 am Reply with quote
Ok Japanese game developers, it's time to stop going after the mobile trend and go back to what you have always done best ... Full fledged console games and let the koreans and the chinese develop crappy mobile games Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:36 am Reply with quote
I wouldn't be surprised if this was, at least in part, simply due to the fact that most Japanese smartphone games are region-locked which puts a pretty severe limitation on their user base. I play a number of them but I have to sideload the apks - something most people won't bother to do (or are not able to do, if they lack the know-how). Sure, a few of them have been released in other regions with localizations and all, but most of them are Japan only. Meanwhile, in my experience Chinese or Korean mobage are not region locked, which makes it possible for them to address a much wider audience.

So yet again market shows that insularity and stubborn refusal to get on with the times will eventually prove a disadvantage...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:15 am Reply with quote
Aca Vuksa wrote:
I don't know what to say, Japan falling its smartphone trend to an Korea and China is no sense to me at all.

Did Korea and China defeated Japan over its smartphone, because they are known for large amount of innovations than Japan had?

I can't really speak to the success of Chinese pop culture and goods, but Korean things are absolutely in vogue at the moment and have been for a few years now. So much so that I'd argue they've got a stronger presence around the world than anime.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:08 am Reply with quote
#sukkar wrote:
Aca Vuksa wrote:
I don't know what to say, Japan falling its smartphone trend to an Korea and China is no sense to me at all.

Did Korea and China defeated Japan over its smartphone, because they are known for large amount of innovations than Japan had?

I can't really speak to the success of Chinese pop culture and goods, but Korean things are absolutely in vogue at the moment and have been for a few years now. So much so that I'd argue they've got a stronger presence around the world than anime.


Korea has K-Pop, K-Drama and MMORPG while China has amzing culture and historical presevations. But yeah, i wonder if Chinese Pop culture will start rival Japanese & Korean Pop culture too?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:20 pm Reply with quote
Яeverse wrote:
I think there is a major mistake in the article or something was lost in translation

-Mixi's Monster Strike game has earned US$1.9 billion since 2013 to become the most profitable smartphone game app yet. GungHo Online Entertainment's Puzzle & Dragons has earned US$6.9 billion since 2012.

How is Monster Strike which earner 1.9 bln more profitable than PADs 6.9 bln?


Somehow that number got copied down wrong. Monster Strike made 7.1 billion. It's been corrected, thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:56 pm Reply with quote
Rednimue wrote:
Ok Japanese game developers, it's time to stop going after the mobile trend and go back to what you have always done best ... Full fledged console games and let the koreans and the chinese develop crappy mobile games Very Happy


Don't know if that's pure snark but they haven't been too strong in that area since the 90's and early part of this millennium so that won't be much of out for them either.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:17 pm Reply with quote
The government just needs to start banning games from those countries, problem solved.
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Rednimue



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:17 pm Reply with quote
BadNewsBlues wrote:
Rednimue wrote:
Ok Japanese game developers, it's time to stop going after the mobile trend and go back to what you have always done best ... Full fledged console games and let the koreans and the chinese develop crappy mobile games Very Happy


Don't know if that's pure snark but they haven't been too strong in that area since the 90's and early part of this millennium so that won't be much of out for them either.


I don't know where you were during the whole 6th generation (PS2, Xbox, GC) but the Japanese developers' decline started during the 7th generation (Xbox 360, Ps3, Wii) and one of the main reason was/is the rising of the mobile games market ... they were still going strong on both home and portable consoles up until 2005 - 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:06 pm Reply with quote
If Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Nier Automata, Bloodborne, Persona 3-5, Dragon Quest VIII and Resident Evil 7 are garbage, I'd like to know what are some good games.
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