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zrnzle500
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While I agree that the show's idea of bad writing does provide good fodder against itself, I think its idea of good writing is more telling. Just about every character that read the sister's book positively gushes about it (including many women, fellow LN writers, that VA, and the MC), but they never say much more than "It's a flirty sibling rom-com" as the reason why they think it is so brilliant. But the LN writer aspect is just a setup for incest hijinks anyways. Say what you will about ImoSae and Eromanga-sensei, but at least they had something to say about writing LNs, and writing LNs was a substantial part of the plot. Even as someone who thought that those previous two entries of LN writer sub genre of incest anime were fairly decent, My Sister, My Writer is the most poorly realized one, even putting aside the piss poor production values (it doesn't help that it only has one cut of animation that could be consider good by any stretch of the imagination). Frankly, comparing My Sister, My Writer to porn rags is an insult...to porn. I don't think it would be that hard to find, say, a OreImo doujin that was better written than My Sister, My Writer. At this point, I'm just watching it as a standard setter for a particular kind of badness. It's about as close as you can get to a show solely composed of pandering and nothing else.
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Sakagami Tomoyo
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In any other genre, a sequence that over-the-top at the beginning would obviously be poking fun at things and not actually representative of the show. It was still at a greater extreme than any real imouto ecchi show, but not implausibly so, which says a lot. And maybe it's just that I'm not especially interested in the little sister fetish, but I find that the best examples are the ones like A Sister's All You Need that aren't really about the little sister, and it's all about the supporting cast.
Bodacious Space Pirates. Which is pretty damn good, contrary to what the title might lead one to believe. (And that's an improvement over the light novels original title; Miniskirt Pirates.)
Spice and Wolf is pretty good. It's just that a show about a travelling merchant and a wolf god talking about economics isn't everyone's cup of tea. But yeah, the main point is that more so than not judging a book by its cover, you really can't judge an anime by its title. Sure a lot of the time you do get exactly what it says on the tin, but there are so many that are either not really representative of the content or entirely unrelated and possibly nonsensical. |
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kotomikun
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Writing what you know doesn't work if you don't know anything. Snark aside, this show seems to be just the latest and greatest example of the overly-self-referential trend in modern anime. Sometimes it feels like half the shows each season are explicitly about the anime/manga/light-novel industry, and/or consist entirely of ostensibly-tongue-in-cheek exaggerations of anime tropes, especially ones that non-anime-fans would consider inappropriate. That can be alright in moderation, but too much of it could turn the whole medium into something that isn't really about anything but itself. Anime-fandom often feels uncomfortably cultish, like it's trying to scare away "normal" people by doubling down on the weirdness and insisting we all must tolerate it. That can be sort of a positive if the "weird" concept is, say, gay romance (though often that's just fetishization), but wow, this siscon fixation of ours is getting out of hand. In a more practical sense, I'm sort of confused by how a show like this one--which sounds like an unmitigated disaster even without taking the creepiness into account--doesn't get, y'know, cancelled. I guess anime production contracts are serious business. (Literally.) |
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Sakagami Tomoyo
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Yeah, anime fandom has been getting worryingly cultish lately. It's not (yet) to the point where I'm distancing myself from anime, but I find myself distancing myself from large parts of the fandom. Also it was doubling down on the weirdness at least a decade ago; not even sure what we're up to now.
Contracts are serious business wherever you go, but it's especially unthinkable to break them in Japan. And as I think an Answerman column a while back says when discussing recap and filler episodes, studios lose less face by putting junk on the air than by not having anything to put on the air. |
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Takizawa-Shinzou
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Kinda funny how the Sister Princess cameo was the best animated part of the entire show. I guess to honor such a classic show properly, at least.
Really though, this show is bad but it's not because of the "Sister" aspect. "Sister" anime can and have been done well before. This dude isn't even really into his sister...she's into him. If you actually watched it you'd know that. And no, the "siscon fetish" isn't getting out of hand. There's actually less of them now than ever. |
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nDroae
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One of my all time favorites, Girls und Panzer, was a misleading title for me. I thought the name suggested the equivalent of the motorcycle episode of Golden Boy but with tanks; the actual anime of course has very little ecchi.
One of the article writers wrote, "It's okay to like trash! I like some siscon light novels, there's no shame. (...) Look, we've been over this before, you're not getting anywhere by kinkshaming me." If you actually read it you'd know that. 
So, like these girls, then. (I don't think there's anything wrong with posting these links, since they are all public reviews posted on the Amazon item listing page) "i wore this and my ahegao thigh highs irl to a crowded chinese restaurant and a bar/arcade today and the reaction was pretty O_O. There was a granny at the restaurant who loved it but her son was like "NOOOOOOOOOO don't explain it to her" ruining my fun >:T some people went red when i sat down at the big group table and i just tried to keep my grin that says "yeah i'm a freak, thanks for asking", two admitted to knowing what it was to which i responded "I see you are a person of culture too." Overall I had a fun night, made friends, and talked about hentai with strangers. I plan on wearing it in public more!" https://smile.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3F0HPRKSYNNOA/ "my friends & family are disappointed in me but i cannot lie when i say this is a gr8 product." https://smile.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RHO0JQOUZOB6E/ https://smile.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R13S8VUTGWV416/ https://smile.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2GLTIVJF4OUPA/ https://smile.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1ZTLU4WZWYIM0/ https://smile.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3JPYKKPT3K13H/ https://smile.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RMAGGV5YYPFD4/
On that topic, I've seen it claimed (by some established writer) that that advice has resulted in huge numbers of dead-boring scripts and manuscripts. It is important to do your research, but it's unnecessary and unwise to limit the subject matter to real life experience, unless you've lived a remarkable life. You made me think of Miyazaki's well-known complaint about anime creators spending all their time engaged with otaku content, and having no experience of real life for inspiration or even reference. Last edited by nDroae on Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:12 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Sailor Sedna
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Looks like this is going to end up as one of the worst anime of 2018, and for good reason, who would ever think a shitty incest/lolicon pedobait anime would ever be considered good (I hope UzaMaid is suffering from the same terrible quality)? I highly doubt the light novels are any better too. I have to agree with Tomoyo, the fact Crunchyroll is putting shit like this on their website and thinking it's legal to license is making me distance myself from a good amount of the fandom.
I still call Harukana Receive as the best anime of 2018, but even then and there, that's got fans that make me cringe. And what the hell, a Hentai Ahegao T-shirt? Who comes up with this stuff? 
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nDroae
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Nope, it's been consistently well-made.
They're quite popular, see Amazon links above 
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zrnzle500
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Late night anime are effectively infomercials and they pay for the airtime, so the networks aren't really concerned about whether anyone is actually watching it. They've already paid for the time, so it really doesn't benefit anyone to cancel it in the middle of its run. It would probably be more work for the network to scrounge up something to play until the next anime or program in that time slot starts. |
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Sailor Sedna
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Welp.
I sometimes question the products Amazon sells, especially some body pillows... |
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Top Gun
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I just...fundamentally do not understand why shows/novels like this even exist in the first place. Like, let's work with the reasonable assumption that the endgame for this particular genre is to be fap-bait. If that's the case, then there's literally an entire universe of doujin out there catering to every depraved sub-fetish imaginable. Some of them even have really good art! And they're pretty much guaranteed to, er, get the job done far more efficiently. So if that's the case, why would anyone subject themselves to episodes' worth of horrific writing, garbage animation, and ear-grating "onii-chaaaaannnn~"s for what amounts to zero payoff? That's the weirdest part to me about shows like this: they manage to be both really creepy AND shockingly chaste. They straddle this seemingly-pointless middle ground of not-legitimate-storytelling, but also not-porn. Why bother?
(A friend of mine made a spectacular analogy: there's a good reason why Hooters is going under, while both fine dining establishments and strip clubs are seemingly doing just fine.) |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Anyway, fun to see the GIF of all the imouto addressing their onii-san toward article end, actually that was what started me on the avoidance track for MSMW. I got through Ep1 to be fair, sayonara after that so it looks like I haven't missed anything worthwhile! Also, I've been seeing those Ahegao shirts at AX the last couple of years and have been wondering where they may come from other than Fakku (that I avoid like the plague). There is a really nice looking one I wouldn't mind... Last edited by Hiroki not Takuya on Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:52 am; edited 1 time in total |
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CatSword
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Considering episode 6 has a hidden "we're in serious trouble" message, I think that this laughing stock has some tragic circumstances surrounding it. I wouldn't be surprised if NAZ isn't around much longer.
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nDroae
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I always think back to this classic (to me) from 2009, which seems to suggest that the universal availability of porn online has made the old "sex sells" adage somewhat less true for Hollywood; though of course there are still HBO shows, and specific cases like 50 Shades of Grey. I'm going to massacre the quote, read it uncensored here: http://www.the-editing-room.com/transformers2.html
I dropped this show a few minutes into the first episode (only interest is Ahegao W Peace Sensei, figured I'd skip through for her later) and I haven't seen OreImo, but I thought Eromanga Sensei was fun. I wasn't particularly attracted to the characters (except Sagiri's mom in those few flashbacks), so that wasn't why. I also had fun watching Shobitch, and currently Conception, which is surprisingly low on fanservice shots but consistently ridiculous in other ways, even by anime standards. The worst thing is I don't like a lot of popular, supposedly brilliant comedy anime like Nichijou or Cromartie. I prefer the dumb stuff.
Maybe, but I kinda figure that once you hit "I'm not interested in girls who've already had their period" in the first episode, it's played out and done already - nothing can really be surprising after that; if anything it's surprising that that character is able to restrain herself as much as she does. I don't find that show very funny for the most part, and I wouldn't have picked it up at all if it hadn't been part of a group simulwatch I'm in. The live chat making fun of it improves it somewhat. I think it has gotten a bit better since M.A.O.'s character joined, I'm a fan of her. Too bad it couldn't be just a yuri between those two buff military women, guess there's no market for that eh 
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Jonny Mendes
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Exactly the same reason why things like reality shows and slasher movies exist,there are a audience for that, with the difference that are no real people/actors/contestants in anime/novels. In case of incest fiction, its been around for thousents of years, since ancient Greece.
The best ones are those that have a Ahegao with double peace sign 
Now really, i only see people using those in Comiket, and was only a few. But is not something i would use or even buy. (i prefer using my Tohka (Date a Live) shirt when i was there) https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B07648VW29 When i looked at the price outside Japan, i was grateful i bought it and others when i was there. |
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