Forum - View topicINTEREST: Senran Kagura Producer: 'We've Stopped Putting in Sexual Content with No Narrative Reason'
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BadNewsBlues
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Not for nothing but any economical negatives for cities hosting the Olympics are on the heads of the local cities that host them not the Olympics themselves. http://fortune.com/2016/08/10/olympics-financial-disasters/ It's the same as when a city decides to waste millions of dollars building a new stadium for a local sports team insisting it's going to bring jobs and boost the local economy while paying for itself (which they never do). The only difference is that you don't have stingy millionaires and billionaires petitioning cities to do all this.
Even if that was his point most gamers couldn't care less about sexual content in their games. Especially since many of these game tend to have less emphasis on meaningful gameplay and more about titillating players after pay a 30 to 60 dollar cover charge.
If these people are a vocal minority than how are they effecting a corporation to make such changes to games released on their platform?
Well makes sense considering the internet didn't exist in the 80's, was in it's infancy in the 90's and most of them wouldn't have been aware at the time that certain games were censored unless there was an immediate example to pull from like the arcade version of Mortal Kombat vs the SNES version of Mortal Kombat.
American standards don't generally mean you can't have zero sexual content in your media products. |
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CatSword
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If that’s a creative decision the team made on their own, that’s fine. I’m against Sony trying to control sexy games.
As others have noted, they should be careful with this - this may demand more from their writing team then in previous games. Even mainstream Western entertainment isn’t shy to keep the audience’s attention with sex/nudity. (Remember the Game of Thrones scene with the guy monologing and the two women going at it behind him?) |
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Lero
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By getting into their ranks like it happened with Sony  . I thought this was common knowledge already due to the infamy of California.
Or Bethesda and EA's having their games (Battlefield and Fallout) being huge disasters.
That's the hipocresy of their double standards. It's baaaaad for children(their favorite lame excuse) who play game rated for grown up people. But rape, gore and apology to violence and whatnot it's art when they do it 
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AnimeLordLuis
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Hopefully after said 2020 Tokyo Olympics happen things will start to go back to normal and Japan will go back to being the Japan that we all know and love. Though I doubt that the same could be said about soyny unless they start to lose a boatload of money because of their stupidity soyny will continue to remain closed minded.
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H. Guderian
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I don't often go for ecchi, but when i do I like it when its not random. There was this funny streak in the olden times you could watch a relatively B-grade anime and it would happen to have sex. or something pretty good. Nowadays I think we only get the really low grade 'random' stuff. I think everyone gets what I mean. If you have a story reason, then there's a reason to get MORE and go FURTHER. We could be getting better quality fanservice by being more disciplined and focused.
It would be a loss to be saying this just to appease some complainers. So i'll stay optimistic. |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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Did a lot of cleanup in here and removed a lot of trollish posts and responses to them. I suggest everyone forgo anymore blanket insults or responses to such posts. Just report them.
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Hiroki not Takuya
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I must say that despite knowing nothing about the aforementioned Senran Kagura, this announcement strikes me as one of the most bizarre ever for several reasons. First, why for the Olympics? As if people from other countries that might be interested don't already know about the sexual content and doing this will change their perception/attitudes? I'm not sure what countries he is thinking of, but everyplace I can think of excepting the Middle East has been pushing more explicit sexual content wherever possible for decades.
Second, since when has there ever been a narrative necessity to have sexual depictions/nudity/groping/etc in any story or game? Maybe in the rare exceptions like Scum's Wish where the story was about sexual function/relations/dysfunction I can't think of anything in a story that would require sexual explicitness that couldn't be conveyed without it. I mean, even assuming bathing culture being what it is in Japan specifically, what might be said that would have to be said in a bath (or while leering at or groping the other person)? Third, the producer seems to be saying these things as if they were relevatory or novel. Maybe it's poor phrasing, but I don't think having stories which depict characters undergoing personal growth and writing stories with an actual plot where things happen for reasons which are connected to a narrative should be considered novel. Of course, they might be to some people in the porn industry... Still and all, I applaud the wish to change things. However, it would take a whole lot more of the industry than his band of merry fellows to follow suit for things to change and I'd not bet on that happening. I hope he is sincere and by all means write stories and make games (and anime tie-ins) that have fully realized characters that don't "strip or look up someone's skirt for vague reasons" and I do hope he doesn't mean that should change to "I had to look up your skirt to be sure of the color of your panties because in the next battle, light colors would give the enemy our position..."
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ballinamon
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Then there would be nothing
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SilverTalon01
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This makes no sense. Do you understand how consent works? If it is random and out of nowhere, they couldn't have consented to it. Someone being fine with it after the act is done doesn't mean they consented either. What you're actually describing is more like "sexually assault them and it is all good if they're into that kind of thing." Maybe someone is in fact fine with random, out of nowhere sexual assault, but don't mistake that for consent. I don't have any problem with fiction playing boob grabs or whatever off as a joke, and I certainly like decently done fan service anime. Lets not twist the meaning of consent to try to justify a portion of that stuff though. |
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ericarreza
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Who cares? That sporting event is just a money making machine & it doesn't shows the REAL sports unlike before, and besides the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games might cause a bankruptcy due to massive spending just like what it done to Montreal, Athens & Rio: https://youtu.be/x5RIeVoD44A So its better to watch the annual mmo/online gaming events that I'd seen on TV & internet lately & I think its much better than the Olympics, imho. 
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S0crates
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This is a great opportunity to broadcast anime as it is.
Artists should go all out! |
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Northlander
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I'm not entirely sure what you're asking here. When is this an issue in Senran Kagura or the whole customers vs. the Government censorship thing? Or both? Or something else entirely? |
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S0crates
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Well, when the US had the Olympics in Salt Lake City, they didn't tone down their Hollywood movies? Would be great if they did though, that stuff is so vile at times. I would have loved a year where Hollywood didn't release anything.
What would happen is that other movie industries would take over, and I suspect that this might be such an attempt by the Japanese artist's competitors, but who knows. |
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BadNewsBlues
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Yeah I'm pretty sure most of the people working at Sony were working for the company long before Anita Sarkeesian name came into common knowledge or simply not paying any heed of mind to her by the time they moved to working for them.
What disasters are you talking about cause the thing that jumps to my mind is armchair historians complaining about Dice making female playable characters in Battlefield V's multiplayer (never mind the fact that Battlefield 1 let you play as a female in the single player campaign). And that was less a disaster and more a bunch of grown men making other men look both bad and ignorant.
That's not really any different from the overdone method of adding more steam to a scene where someone's body parts are already covered up by limbs or something else. Or anime adding dark spots to such horrific scenes as a teenager smoking a cigarette or someone getting their breasts groped |
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