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TexZero
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Yet again the US and it's viewing audience proves that on the world stage we're hypocrites. Everyone loves to praise our first amendment and the right to freedom of expression, but band together enough public outrage and you loose that right faster than you can blink an eye. Ironically this entire problem can just as quickly be solved by the very people who get triggered at seeing such things not watching them. However, that'd be to easy as it wouldn't allow them to feign outrage at every little thing. |
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Marzan
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That’s why I think that self censorship will be on the rise in years to come. Public outrage online will make licensors/ companies hesitant.
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TexZero
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Either that will happen or the service models for anime distrubition will adapt and force people to authenticate age and region and then display via local laws. Ex if you're of the age of consent you'd have unlimited access to uncensored products or censored products. If you aren't that option magically vanishes and you're forced to watch the censored only stuff. Then they'll just start ignoring the outrage of the 18+ crowd like sensible adults because at that point you should have the mental faculties to self moderate. If you don't like it great, there's literally several options like moving forward, watching something else or just letting the artist tell their story and accepting that while you don't like said content, you're not meant to. |
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SWAnimefan
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Aniplex: "We will be making this anime with graphic content. But because it's too violent, we will be censoring the questionable scenes."
Us: "Then why make it?" Answer: Ratings! |
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kgw
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Ratings? In a midnight anime series? Close to 0.0 The real answer is: free publicity for the DVD series! «You have the "free" content in streaming/broadcasting, but if you want the "premium", uncensored one you gotta pay.» |
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Marzan
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That would be an ideal solution. But I fear it might go above and beyond that level. I’m afraid of a future in which certain subjects/depictions in media being heavily policed by outrage specialists. |
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Ggultra2764
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I seen the comparison of the mentioned rape from the recent SAO episode. Granted I hate censorship of content, but not exactly a fan of SAO since it seems they are still continuing their antics at being an otaku gratification title of sorts by having nearly any named female character in the series be helpless without being saved by the male hero of the series, in the same vain Kirito and Asuna were from the first series.
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NGK
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Here's the worst case scenario if Aniplex NA take this route. It's happened before... animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-06-28/funimation-tsugumomo-release-uses-mix-of-broadcast-and-uncut-episodes/.133487 |
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Key
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Except that wasn't true at all in the Mother's Rosario arc or the GGO spin-off. And as future episodes of the current series will show, Alice is hardly helpless |
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Shiflan
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Because that's the only other option which currently exists. You either stream, or you buy the Japanese BDs. Of course that will probably change in the future, but those are the two choices now.
And it remains to be seen if the English BD release would be as uncensored and at the same level of video quality as the Japanese one. It has happened many times in the past where the version the west gets is not the same as the Japanese release.
Agreed of course. |
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Shiflan
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Of course the "damsel in distress" concept is not always lazy or bad storytelling. But in this case it is. Not necessarily because it's "damsel in distress" but because it's not even internally consistent. At the beginning of SAO Asuna is introduced as a badass. Then suddenly she seems to be completely helpless trapped in a cage? Writers, pick one. Is Asuna's character strong and independent like she was in the first dozen episodes? Or is she a helpless sponge like she's shown in the next arc? That is bad writing, plain and simple. |
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Shiflan
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I suspect it's mostly a lot of people who are talking trash. Subscribing to a streaming service isn't very expensive, and it's super convenient. Those are the reasons people subscribe in the first place, and that won't be changing. It's a lot more effort to hunt down and pirate an uncut version of a show compared to just watching the stream on Hulu/CR/whatever.
It depends on exactly what you mean by "commonplace". It is nothing new that the physical disc release is less censored than broadcast versions. I can remember that sort of thing going on all the way back to the early days of anime on DVD. Though, the method was slightly different. Sometimes the DVD (or later, BD) release would have an extra episode or two which was never normally broadcast, and those episodes were often more risqué than the rest of the bunch. For example, Love Hina from 2000: There were 25 episodes made, but only 24 of of them were broadcast. Episode 25, which was more risqué than the rest, only appeared on physical media. There were many other shows which did the same sort of thing: buy the DVD or BD and get a bonus episode or two. Also, many shows did other tricks to make the physical discs more attractive to customers, like having more detail in sexually suggestive or violent scenes. Broadcast versions might be edited to obscure character's bodies with more steam in bathing scenes, skirts got longer, violence was less bloody, etc. Having the physical disc differ from broadcast is old hat.
I think the real difference is how, exactly, the differences are executed. The censorship here, with big black boxes, is a lot more obvious and obtrusive than what I described above. |
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jdnation
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I'm wondering at this point where all this SAO makes women helpless nonsense comes from.
Even with Asuna locked up - obviously because the villain could cheat and take her magical game abilities away - and in fact did so when Kirito showed up - all along the way Kirito was aided by his sister the ENTIRE time and gets his ass saved by a digital AI girl if I recall correctly. You had exactly ONE arc where the main Female lead was trapped, obviously within the confines of the show's structure, and a cast of plenty of other girls all pulling their weight. And that's after establishing Asuna's cred in SAO. God forbid she suddenly find herself in a situation where she is helpless because in-game skills dont mean much in the real world where thematically she is strapped in a shitty arranged marriage while stuck in a coma with her dickhead fiancee isolating her. And thus this is reflected in the show, and also explains why she sought escapism in an online game where she does have power and agency, and after which she emerges stronger, and why in the current arc the situation is somewhat reversed and she goes to lengths to make certain Kirito isn't in the same situation she is in. If that's the only reason some of you tuned out of SAO, then frankly I don t know what to say. It's like this has more to do with ideological opposition to the optics of 'girls needs rescuing by boy' which is clearly a gross reduction of what actually is happening in the show itself. |
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Shiflan
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The reason why I think the writing is poor is because there seems to be a massive disconnect between the plot events and the character. Sure, I can understand that Asuna is trapped because the villian doing so has "taken away her game powers" by means of a plot device. That's OK. But in that framework Asuna should retain her attitude. But no, she becomes a helpless little victim--not only because she is literally trapped, but in terms of attitude as well. That is the change that made no sense to me. Take away her powers and lock her in a cage? I'd expect her to be frustrated and angry at the situation, and fighting or scheming to effect her escape, rather than transforming into a weak, whiny, sort of character which has zero consistency with how she behaved before. At the very least this could have been a storytelling opportunity to show how her captor broke her will, but that never happened. It was simply a binary switch that made little sense. In one moment she's a total badass, and then in the next her character has done a complete 180. The plot device of "her game powers were taken away" is not enough to explain that. That was the straw which broke the camel's back for me. I don't think SAO is a bad show or anything like that, but it got the point for me that there were plenty of other things I'd rather watch with what limited time I have. |
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aegismist
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Asuna does try to escape and also gets the keycard out by dropping it - without that card Kirito would never have actually gotten to her. Asuna played a critical role in her own rescue.
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