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Nordhmmer
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HoboSoup they're miss-remembering a scene from the web novel. |
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HoboSoup
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Ah interesting. |
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AiddonValentine
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Wow. Just....wow! I'm starting to think the author has some serious issues they need to work out
There is no need to mention them, because they are not relevant to this conversation. |
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Hal14
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So about how many volumes will be adapted?
Personally, i think five with the 13th episode being spoiler[the fight against Glass] |
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Gabriel Augusto Vidigal
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This is nice, it's probably gonna be one of the best anime this year, so I am glad it will stick for half a year.
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ultimatehaki
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The spoiler does happen much later in the Web Novel, but takizawa is purposely putting it out of context. Its not a random woman this is done to it's the first princess who by that time has done far worse things than just betray him. |
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Ozzy4k
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Man sometimes authors just write shit to try to make a great story and they don’t feel any type of way or another mal just makes the craziest assumptions . There are stories for everyone let whoever likes those stories read them and if you don’t it’s simple you don’t have to read or watch the anime but for god sake stfu already it’s getting ridiculous
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HoboSoup
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Thanks for the information. spoiler[I don't think she should be sexually assaulted and what the main character says is messed up. She should be arrested or if she dies as a result of her actions it might be a justifiable death, however the sexual assault is 100% wrong.] Having a main character say and think messed up things isn't necessarily a bad thing depending on how it's written. It's fine to dislike certain aspects of a main character or even think they're terrible as a whole. I don't know much about the series and I'm not a fan personally, but I don't think it's good when people jump to conclusions about the author and generalize the fans. There's lots of different people with different perspectives, lots of different fans of the series that have different takes. Like the fans that are hopeful he'll progress over the story and become a better person. There's also the in my opinion worst kind of fans that think the spoiler[sexual assault is "deserved", I'd strongly disagree with those fans since I don't think anyone should be assaulted no matter how awful of a person they are.] I think both sides arguing generalize too much. Since both sides have a lot of various viewpoints, don't assume anyone that likes the series is a misogynist, and don't assume anyone that dislikes it is a white knight/social extremist. At the end of the day if you enjoy the series then you should watch/read it, if you don't enjoy it then don't watch/read it. It's a fictional series and being the taste police only draws attention to the very thing you dislike. Plus even if you hate the series you should defend people's right to watch/read it because censorship is bad. Last edited by HoboSoup on Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:16 am; edited 4 times in total |
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#891509
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Yeah, they miss remembered that. SPOILER HEAVY AND PLOT MIGHT CHANGE IN THE LN spoiler[Basically Naofumi want to Myne to be sentenced to death, But the queen cannot sentence a princess to death for political reason. The queen then suggested to marry myne to a nearby Pig King infamous of using his wive as a "toy" and "break" it often. Naofumi agreed on the condition that there must be a recorded evidence of Myne's death. After 2 weeks the the pig king send a recorded video of Myne's "torture" at the hand of the Pig king till she died. Not sure where in the world that "heart is put at ease" statement even came from because it surely is not in the WN translation I read. Naofumi's monologue when watching the video is like this "Honestly there is nothing more disgusting in this world. But I have to see Witch's (Myne) last days through the end. It seemed the king himself graciously let it be recorded. Something about driving Witch into further despair...he was really a human filth" The final monologue of the chapter "Like this, i finally cut my ties with Witch...It was so abrupt that it seems anti-climactic. it doesn't seem real." Taken from chapter 251-252 of the WN translation ] The list of crime heavy spoiler: spoiler[ - False rape accusation - Multiple Killing attempt on the Shield Hero - Murder attempt on her own little sister - Falsely accused Shield hero of brainwashing people - Murder attempt on her own Mother - Betrayal (twice?) to spear hero and making him stupid (literaly) - Betrayal to the Sword Hero and scarred him for life emotionally - Making The Bow Hero an Invalid - Attempting Rebellion And many more that i cannot remember ] Last edited by #891509 on Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:14 am; edited 1 time in total |
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HoboSoup
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Well then...spoiler[Just hiring an assassin to kill her if her deeds are indeed punishable by death would be more than enough. Abusing her is gross and completely unnecessary.] |
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Hal14
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^^^
None of these events make it to the light novel so discussion is mostly moot. It's not unheard of for major changes to be made between web and light novels. Overlord, Kumo desu, Slime, all started as web novels and have made some big changes. For instance, in Overlord III the spoiler[fate of the blond mage adventurer was much worse in the web novel. ]At this point the web novels are basically a rough draft, so you risk confusing or even misleading yourself by reading them now. |
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Thespacemaster
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Much like goblin slayer the injustice dilemma would die out by ep 5 and it won't be brought up much for this arc.
At 25 episodes it would seem that the adaptation for most most part will be 1 chapter per episode based on how the manga adapted the first arc of shield hero from the novel. The manga adapted the first arc in 32 chapters and ep 1 adapted the first 2 already so yeah this is the best pace to adapt this arc and i can say this will be a faithfull adaptation. Regarding the web novel. The original author has already changed things from the web novel version so don't be so sure it will be the same and those saying that the author is a woman. the truth is we dont know what gender they are but i will add this: THe one doing the manga version is a woman 100% so you got a female artist who read the novel version and still decided to adapt it and drawing the scenes in the way she imagined so if she was not turned off by it why should you? I swear The Millennial and Generation Z era are to sensitive to things when they have not seen the real controversial stuff of the past this is nothing compared to those. |
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#891509
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Absolutely correct. That's why it is pissing me off when people are basing the anime's plot on the WN when it is obviously going to use the more polished and commercially friendly LN version. Another example of WN to LN changes from another title that might trigger some people if they know the WN part. spoiler[Lazy Dungeon Master WN version has the character Meat Kuroinu, a little beastgirl, becoming sex slave for bandits. In the LN version Meat managed to avoid that] |
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pwnagemaster
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Scores on MAL: 8.4 for LN, 8.25 for manga, currently 8.47 for anime I think you mean, "...so the fanbase can enjoy the anime of a franchise they enjoy without the regressive left saying they're not allowed to." |
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doctordoom85
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Is it actually established she's a villain by the time he makes that comment? Since you didn't contradict that this does happen less than three minutes in, I have trouble believing his comment was justified with the knowledge he had at that moment. That's like saying if Obi-Wan had punched Palpatine in the face in Episode 2 randomly and people were all, "but we know he's a Sith so it's okay!" Yeah, but obviously Obi-Wan didn't and the supposed hero just assaulted someone for no reason. But really it's irrelevant to me if he did know she was corrupt or not, I don't care what the person has done, I consider it a misogynistic phrase as almost always its used by people to demean women who DARE to have a very sexually active lifestyle and/or dress in a revealing fashion but at the same time those people who say it then don't use the phrase at all to men who live and/or dress that same way. I mean, if the villain were black and the MC used a certain word to describe him, are we supposed to ignore this obviously racial slur because the black guy is a villain? No, a discriminating word attacks the entire group of people it's aimed at, not just the one it's said to. You can attack a villain's character without bringing sexism, racism, or other types of discrimination and double standards into it. If this is the way the MC behaves then I don't care for him and don't want to watch. Yes, a MC can be heavily flawed, Subaru from Re:Zero could be very self-centered and at one point clearly put his own desires over the woman's desires that he had feelings for thus disrespecting her BUT for me that is not so unforgivable that a good character arc can't redeem him. A MC that acts this way though? No thanks. Also, I didn't realize people weren't allowed to criticize THE ANIME with what's been given so far which is what's being reviewed. You know, a lot of people kinda don't want to just be given all the details of the source material right away but can still criticize the adaptation with what they've been given so far. How about just saying, "well, these issues get resolved later on" instead of acting like people can't have an opinion on what they're specifically having an opinion on? |
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