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INTEREST: 7-Eleven, Lawson Convenience Stores Will Cut Adult Magazines From Shelves


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Yttrbio



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:11 pm Reply with quote
You say "bizarre," I say "convenient."
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Should be "seijinmuke" with an "s."
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:37 pm Reply with quote
BodaciousSpacePirate wrote:
Someone clearly added up how much money they'll lose from tourists who have strong negative views on adult magazines

Generally foreign tourists don't browse the magazine rack in convenience stores. I've certainly never seen any foreign tourists do it when I've been in the country.

Top Gun wrote:
Seems really bizarre that they were selling porn in convenience stores in the first place.

Pretty sure US convenience store chains sold men's magazines back in the 1980's and 1990's.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:45 pm Reply with quote
Why doesn't Japan just sexually repress themselves and shame their sexual desires in mentally unhealthy ways like the rest of us?

Sexual imagery should only be used when it can sell commercial products like beer and chicken wings! Doesn't Japan know the mood?

Although, it would be kind of odd to walk into a convenience store and see easily accessible porn (assuming all 'adult' material is pornography). I prefer more of a challenge.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:44 pm Reply with quote
Pretty sure convenience stores in my part of the US still have them, just you have to ask for them at the checkout.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:45 pm Reply with quote
Who gets porn from store magazines in the era of the internet anyway?
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Actar



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:10 am Reply with quote
...and people thought I was just being paranoid. It boggles the mind with regard to how freaking stupid this is.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:36 am Reply with quote
Greboruri wrote:

Pretty sure US convenience store chains sold men's magazines back in the 1980's and 1990's.

Well yeah, but that was a, shall we say, very different time. For one, almost no one in this country still buys magazines in general, and for another, who actually buys print porn? (I'm fully aware that Japan's manga and/or consumption is a completely different animal.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:10 am Reply with quote
Yttrbio wrote:
You say "bizarre," I say "convenient."


Well, that's the thing. At worst, this is an inconvenience, and only for people who buy porn at 7-Eleven. They may have been thinking about doing this for a while due to low sales weighed against complaints from other customers, and decided to quit stocking them before the Olympics roll in and make that situation ten times worse. In any case, this seems to be no cause for panic.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:27 am Reply with quote
Top Gun wrote:
Seems really bizarre that they were selling porn in convenience stores in the first place.


Three years ago you used to be able to buy assault rifles at Walmart, and even today you can pick up a wide assortment of deadly firearms, I’d rather they sold porn instead.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:48 am Reply with quote
Beatdigga wrote:
Who gets porn from store magazines in the era of the internet anyway?


True collectors and connoisseurs. Wink

Gasero wrote:
Why doesn't Japan just sexually repress themselves and shame their sexual desires in mentally unhealthy ways like the rest of us?

Sexual imagery should only be used when it can sell commercial products like beer and chicken wings! Doesn't Japan know the mood?

Although, it would be kind of odd to walk into a convenience store and see easily accessible porn (assuming all 'adult' material is pornography). I prefer more of a challenge.


Video rental stores also had a porn section. It wasn't really that uncommon in the 90s to find adult stuff in various stores. They used to sell porn games in Game stores too. But then when GameStop and it's affiliates took over they pretty much refused to carry adult only games so that industry pretty much died. Nowadays it's all digital only releases on PC only.

Do commercials even use sex to sell products anymore? I figured most of them went super woke by now or they were pressured into stopping. Remember those old GamePro magazines where you had ads for games and systems like this? Yeah, no way that'll fly in America these days. But luckily it's still alive and well in Japan. Nintendo put out a video for the new Sengan Kagura on Switch a few weeks ago with some gravue models in bikinis playing the game. Possibly to advertise the Switch version is uncensored while the PS4 one isn't, but either way, I approve.

I actually joked about this with my friend a while ago, about how tourists for the Olympics would probably be in for a shock when they go into a 7-11 in Japan and find porn. Laughing I hope they didn't do this because of me. The real test is if they close down the adult sections at book and manga stores, then that'll be a big thing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:36 am Reply with quote
There are other side of this event.

Japan have a great tradition of "Omotenashi" or hospitality.
Omotenashi captures the way in which Japanese hosts pay attention to detail and the anticipate their guests needs.

And that means that during the Olympics, they are hosts of people from different cultures, some of them are not comfortable with a more open minded about sexuality images culture like the one Japan have. So, as a good host, they are going to do their best for all their Olympic tourists/guests to feel comfortable and welcome everywhere they go, removing everything that can disturb the Olympic tourists/guests.

After the Olympics, I'm almost sure everything will return to normal. But until then, things will be different from usual.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:07 pm Reply with quote
Top Gun wrote:
who actually buys print porn?


Even excluding manga magazines, Japan actually still has a pretty big print industry in general. You can still find a lot of adult magazines littering a section of many bookstores, both big and small, which advertise adult products, adult videos, adult actresses, and some meant for otaku to advertise adult games and such. I even saw an exclusive erotic "tech" magazine in 7-eleven that went into the specifics of producing erotic game and video content (censoring rules, CG development, studying how sex works to get it to look realistic and/or alluring in a game, artist interviews, etc.). I bought that one. =P

Print will probably eventually go the same direction as much of the West as Japan adapts to the global market, but for now, it stays pretty strong.
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Greboruri



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:51 am Reply with quote
Top Gun wrote:
I'm fully aware that Japan's manga and/or consumption is a completely different animal.

Judging from what you've said, I'd say you don't. Though it's on the downward slide and even more so in the last five years (I really noticed this on my last trip in July last year, especially for magazines, CDs and blu-rays in mainstream chain stores), physical media is still a big thing over. Even Tower Records still exists. Having said that I still don't understand why most consumers of porn in Japan don't just download stuff from the web. Uncensored genitalia being the obvious reason for doing so.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:23 am Reply with quote
Greboruri wrote:
Having said that I still don't understand why most consumers of porn in Japan don't just download stuff from the web. Uncensored genitalia being the obvious reason for doing so.

That might be an exception but on the base of a few imported books of mine I have the impression that the depiction of censoring was actually less extreme than of the counterparts on the web. Also 'reading' (more like viewing) a physical book will always be another feeling than consuming it on screen as digital media. But I know from past conversations with other people regarding the reading experience that for most of them this feeling doesn't matter.
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