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NEWS: Funimation Will Not Engage Vic Mignogna on Future Productions

GoddyNee wrote:

Serious Question: Not trying to troll you; seeing all of these people #StandWithVic has me wondering What is it about this guy that makes you ride or die? I mean, there's better VAs that have been around as long or longer as Vic; take Crispin Freeman for example. He's voiced some pretty iconic characters, is a big(or was...I dunno if he still does cons. Does he?) figure in anime, isn't a bad looking guy and yet everyone loves him and says he's a truly nice guy who doesn't have an ego. Nor has he been accused by both congoers and industry professionals of inappropriate behavior. Vic's always going to be iconic for Ed Elric alone but in the last few roles I've heard him in, he's dialed it in basically.( I'm not really a DBZ Fan so I dunno about Broly) but what gets me about this is how people are seriously out to get anyone that talks about crap about VM.

You're assuming people defending Vic are fans of his. I can assure you I am not. I do not even watch dubs. The reason I'm on his side though is because we've seen countless internet outrage mobs ruin lives and careers with no evidence and get away with it, and even when it turns to be false, nobody is held accountable for it and people simply shrug and move on to the next outrage. You're already seeing it in this thread. People who defend Vic are being labeled as crazy people who send death threats, but all the #KickVic people who made attacks and death threats against him and Vic's defenders are either ignored or dismissed as mere jokes and told you can't label them with the actions of a few people. It's a total bad faith double standard when people can label one side as alt-right incels nazis who make violent death threat, but the other side can't be held accountable in the same way.

It's sad too see how this exploded among the fandom. As I said in another thread, this doesn't change my enjoyment of his performances, with FMA being my favorite anime, but being able to separate the person and work also means that I don't see it as an excuse to ignore personal actions.

It wasn't 'a single false allegation'. It was a mountain of credible ones. Can we stop minimalizing and engaging in secondary victimization?

Also, you didn't have to read these articles or post in this thread. But I would certainly prefer that you did, so that you could understand how NOT to handle a situation like this as the accused.

I had a friend who was well connected in the anime convention world about five or six years ago. Even back then I remember her telling me there were a lot of people who were uncomfortable about how he interacted with his fans, too touchy-feely, too many sexual innuendos, though I don't recall any stories about him physically hurting anyone. Still, with his unsavory actions I've been surprised his career kept chugging along with no issues. Guess it finally hit the fan.

NickPenrhyn wrote:

It wasn't 'a single false allegation'. It was a mountain of credible ones. Can we stop minimalizing and engaging in secondary victimization? Also, you didn't have to read these articles or post in this thread. But I would certainly prefer that you did, so that you could understand how NOT to handle a situation like this as the accused.

Is the act of questioning accusers "secondary victimization," and are we all guilty until proven innocent? As for the quantity of accusations, agreed - there sure are a lot of them. But hasn't Vic been attending like 3 conventions a month for the past 20 years? If Vic has harmed anyone, then I hope justice prevails. Monica is a credible witness, and I have a lot of respect for her, both as a fan, and as a fellow person. For now everyone should listen, ask questions, and then come to their own conclusions. And no one should be accused of being "part of the problem" for asking honest questions, or asking that folks avoid contributing to mob mentality.

IMO, banning the guy from conventions is fair if that's the decision of the organizers. But taking away the guys's livelyhood as a VA is perhaps going too far (VA's don't interact with other VA's - minimal staff interaction).

Secondary victimization is the re-traumatization of the sexual assault, abuse, or rape victim through the responses of individuals and institutions. Types of secondary victimization include victim blaming, disbelieving the victim's story, minimizing the severity of the attack, and inappropriate post-assault treatment by medical personnel or other organizations.

I'm curious if they will redo his lines for Broly on home video. I assume they will since they don't want it to affect sales. Plus, it would be better since they can keep things consistent if Broly is in Super later.

It's sad to see how this exploded among the fandom. As I said in another thread, this doesn't change my enjoyment of his performances, with FMA being my favorite anime, but being able to separate the person and work also means that I don't see it as an excuse to ignore personal actions.

IMO, banning the guy from conventions is fair if that's the decision of the organizers. But taking away the guys's livelyhood as a VA is perhaps going too far (VA's don't interact with other VA's - minimal staff interaction).

Talos wrote:

IMO, banning the guy from conventions is fair if that's the decision of the organizers. But taking away the guys's livelyhood as a VA is perhaps going too far (VA's don't interact with other VA's - minimal staff interaction).

I wouldn't worry myself with concern-trolling over Vic's "career". Vic can still work as a VA, nothing's stopping him from recording audiobooks (like that gay werewolf book he recorded) or doing commercials. But he sunk his own anime career by taking a steaming dump where he ate. Even if we're to assume all of the accusations against him are eeeeevil lies from cultural Gorbachovians out to contaminate everyone's adrenal glands or whatever, his peers certainly didn't like working with him. Also, he hasn't had much of a "career" in recent years anyway?

So good-bye to bad trash. I'm glad the anime industry is ridding itself of people who could jeopardize my friends in any capacity.