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hissatsu01
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It's easy for anyone with a PC running AnyDVD or something similar to play the disc and see whatever tracks are there. Or just run a utility like BDInfo and it will tell you what tracks are there without even playing it. But to get the English video/Japanese audio without English subs you'd have to rip both versions then remux. It's enough to put off any "casual" viewers. It's also totally paranoid and releases like this are garbage. |
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Zalis116
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They're not the same. Layers refer to how much data can be stored on each side of the disc, i.e. the amounts you specified. Dual-layer discs can be watched from start to end with only a minor hangup at the layer change point. With dual-sided discs, you have to remove the disc and physically flip it over to access the additional content. This means sacrificing printed artwork/labels, as both sides have to be laser-readable. Dual-sided discs are comparatively rare, but they can store up to ~17 GB if both sides are dual-layer. They could've included both languages of Maquia on one DVD if they'd used dual-sided discs.
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
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Dunno where you got that factoid from, but it’s completely wrong. DVD sales are pretty much dead for anime, Blu-Ray is quite healthy these days. |
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GeorgeC
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Look -- We get it. You DON'T have a Blu ray player. Check. That doesn't mean you're right about sales or the reality of the situation. The Blu ray disc is THE dominant format for anime releases now. The good news is YOU DON'T have to buy a 4K player if you don't want to but in all honestly unless you're hard up for money (and apparently you are) you can get a cheap Blu ray play in store for under $100. Someone reported seeing a BD player online in the $53 range. At this point, it's dumb to stick with a DVD player and you might as well upgrade to at least BD (1080p) standard. If you can save some extra money, go ahead and buy a 4K Blu ray player. That will play virtually everything. You can get a 4K BD model now for $150. I spent twice that much for my first DVD player 19 years ago! The major companies are NOT going back in time and re-adopting DVD to make you or anybody else happy because you don't want to spend another $5 or $10 for the Blu ray copy. That's fine-- your choice but the reality is the market is NOT going back to DVD for most releases and Blu ray is rapidly becoming the lower-end format in the market. At this point, there are many sub-$10 Blu ray releases. They're not anime releases but it's nonsense to say that aren't budget Blu rays out there. Heck, I've seen an increasing number of $15 4K BD releases, too. Upgrade soon if you intend to continue collecting physical home video releases because the number of DVD releases on anime are going down rapidly starting this year. Discotek and Sentai already announced they're on the verge of phasing out DVDs except in cases where shows haven't been remastered for high-definition. Even in cases of SD-only series, Discotek is bundling quite a few series on Blu ray because it takes up less physical space to put 20 or more SD episodes on 1 Blu ray versus having to spread that content on at least 3 DVDs to have any kind of quality. Funimation itself is looking at phasing out the dual BD/DVD format, too. In fact, most Funi reprints are DELETING the DVD altogether. The Anime Select/Classic/whatever they call it "violet-blue line" (that replaced the older SAVE "puke green line") have been turning up in stores and online and NONE of them have DVDs. Those are the budget reprints of titles that are at least a year old. |
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professorwho
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Thanks for making my discovery into an article.
Also, Shout are just dumb. Unless the licensor said to specifically hardsub it (on the BD), why not use locked subtitles like every NA anime release outside of Aniplex? That would save space and would’ve allowed for a way higher Bitrate. The 2 1080p film files are less than 20 mbps, when via hardsubbing, they could’ve had a solid 35+ mbps encode. |
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Animegomaniac
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Thanks for the info as while I have VLC on my PC, I usually don't use it for physical playback as it's terrible for BDs. So my home theater set up doesn't recognize subs on these DVDs, my PC BD software doesn't recognize any subs but VLC does and it allows me to turn them off. That's handy to know. This does seem like something that would promote piracy rather than prevent it. |
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Sakura Shinguji
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At this point I'm starting to feel like this whole Maquia situation happened because Shout is new to anime, and thus new to the ever-increasingly-common anime licensor requirement of locked subtitles, and so they badly misinterpreted what the licensor was asking. I'd be willing to put $20 on the licensor simply requiring the "typical" locked subtitles to go along with the Japanese audio, and Shout wrongly interpreting that to mean two separate video files, either because they made a misinformed decision in-house or because they attempted to reach out for clarification and got miscommunication. And now Shout has made the situation look worse by simply saying "this is what the licensor wanted" when in reality it's only what they *thought* the licensor wanted. Having said all that, that thought process only really applies to the Blu-ray version, and doesn't work as a potential explanation for the DVD version. As I mentioned in my previous post, there's no reason why they couldn't have just done the same thing they did with the Blu-ray: hardsub (either via subtitle coding or burning the subtitles in) the Japanese version in a duplicate video file, and put both on the disc. Just handwaving at it, the domestic studios have regularly put 2 movies' worth of content on a single DVD-9. It's not ideal, but it's also not egregiously bad. So, it feels like Shout just messed up, but that the worst part is that they don't know why they messed up so their explanations are unhelpful. Which is a shame, because they do good work generally. |
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digidragon
ANN Past Staff
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I heard one account saying that the blu-ray has cc subtitle options on the dub track. Might be true of DVD as well. |
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