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NEWS: Square Enix Replaces Pierre Taki as Voice of Olaf in Kingdom Hearts III in Patch


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Asaaaasd



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:25 pm Reply with quote
HoboSoup wrote:
maximilianjenus wrote:
Id id nto pay that much attention, what did watsuki did?


Can someone on here fully clarify what he did? People mention it evey time there's an article about a crime on here. Wasn't he found in possession of old illegal videos with young models or something? This was during a raid for a different reason at an office he worked at right? Which the tapes are creepy and gross, but since there wasn't sex involved in the tapes he didn't receive jail time according to Japanese law, and instead he had to pay a fine. There would have been a bigger punishment otherwise. That's what I just vaguely remember, but I could be completely wrong. There was a lot people saying different things about what he did and why his punishment was a fine, instead of prison.

People try to make it sound worse than what it really was, which is strange, since it was already bad enough for you to write him off as a mangaka.
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Compelled to Reply



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:24 pm Reply with quote
Lactobacillus yogurti wrote:
For all the people commenting on the last big scandal: STOP.

If the guy broke the seemingly strict laws in Japan, it's only fair that he pays the consequences.

Frankly, the whole comparison is apples to oranges. Waisuki is a manga author who didn't exert himself or his intimate life details into his work, while Taki is a celebrity actor with far more physical prevalence.

If you think it's so much better outside Japan, think again. If somebody had one DVD of child pornography like Watsuki and were caught in the United States, most jurisdictions issue a fine and put you on a sex offender registry for a set amount of time, while possession of drugs carries mandatory minimum sentences.

whiskeyii wrote:
See, I see the opposite happening. Even with "outrage mobs", businesses don't as a whole seem to be erasing old content, they're just not producing any new stuff. You can still buy old Cosby DVDs or R Kelly CDs on Amazon even if no one wants to work with them anymore.

People can disassociate someone's bad deeds with their work before the scandals were revealed, whether it be Cosby, Watsuki, or Polanski. I can't say I'm one of those people.


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stannisbaratheon



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:23 pm Reply with quote
Mimizuka, Yasuikuni shrine dedicating war criminals is A-ok, but Drugs are not? Not to mention Ruroni Kenshin's author who had child pornography, then again, Japan's policy on drugs isn't much different than any other asian country and America's policies just a couple decades ago. It isn't about the drugs, its about what drugs symbolize, the corruption, destruction, etc. Some argue Mexico is in such bad shape simply due to America's drug addiction.
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El Hermano



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:44 pm Reply with quote
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Arale Kurashiki wrote:
I mean, this actor is getting a much worse treatment for doing drugs than the Ruroni author for being a pedophile, so...

I was going to comment about Nobuhiro Watsuki. A slap on the wrist, a fine even I could pay and he's back to work in a few months. For child porn possession. I mean seriously, guy should of been thrown in jail and the key thrown in the river. There is no defence for what Nobuhiro Watsuki did. None at all.


He owned legally produced and official DVDs that were only recently banned. That's the defense. It's no different than how certain semi-automatic rifles got banned in California a few years ago but people who already had them we're allowed to keep them, they just can't sell them anymore. You're supposed to register your gun, but most people didn't. Even if you get caught, you'll only get a slap on the wrist. Trying to grandfather clause a law is generally hard to do and doesn't have a harsh punishment associated with it because it's unrealistic to enforce it.
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dcmc



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:40 am Reply with quote
Wow Surprised
Is this the first time a console game be altered after it already being released?at first I thought it just for some sort DLC thing which I can accept as normal,but a patch for content in the core game?i hope it's not the beginning of bad practice where company could censoring a game if they found it to be objectional later on.
were the patch mandatory?&what gonna happen if we dont want to install the patch?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:02 am Reply with quote
El Hermano wrote:
IanC wrote:
Arale Kurashiki wrote:
I mean, this actor is getting a much worse treatment for doing drugs than the Ruroni author for being a pedophile, so...

I was going to comment about Nobuhiro Watsuki. A slap on the wrist, a fine even I could pay and he's back to work in a few months. For child porn possession. I mean seriously, guy should of been thrown in jail and the key thrown in the river. There is no defence for what Nobuhiro Watsuki did. None at all.


He owned legally produced and official DVDs that were only recently banned. That's the defense. It's no different than how certain semi-automatic rifles got banned in California a few years ago but people who already had them we're allowed to keep them, they just can't sell them anymore. You're supposed to register your gun, but most people didn't. Even if you get caught, you'll only get a slap on the wrist. Trying to grandfather clause a law is generally hard to do and doesn't have a harsh punishment associated with it because it's unrealistic to enforce it.


Youre making it sound much better that it was. Until recently it was illegal to produce child porn but possession was not illegal. And by porn that means hardcore child porn! That changed around 2014-2015 when possession became illegal.
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Arale Kurashiki



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:17 am Reply with quote
Also, for Watsuki it wasn't just possession of "a now illegal product", it was piles of the stuff, and he unambiguously stated that he's attracted to kids; trying to describe it as incidental possession of something slightly risque is straight up lying.
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gloverrandal



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:10 am Reply with quote
There are a lot of whataboutisms in this topic. It doesn't matter what you think of Watsuki. It doesn't change the fact Taki broke the law and deserves everything happening to him.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:01 pm Reply with quote
dcmc wrote:
Wow Surprised
Is this the first time a console game be altered after it already being released?at first I thought it just for some sort DLC thing which I can accept as normal,but a patch for content in the core game?i hope it's not the beginning of bad practice where company could censoring a game if they found it to be objectional later on.
were the patch mandatory?&what gonna happen if we dont want to install the patch?


I don't think you can avoid it. I seem to remember there was a Yakuza patch that briefly introduced the actual Chinese actor voicing the lines of a Chinese mafia assassin in Yakuza 0 as being in every version, not just the Chinese ones. Sadly he was swapped out with the original Japanese actor out so only the Chinese version had his dialogue in it (which is a whole 'nother can of worms involving racism against the Chinese, but whatevs).
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:25 pm Reply with quote
Compelled to Reply wrote:
Lactobacillus yogurti wrote:
For all the people commenting on the last big scandal: STOP.

If the guy broke the seemingly strict laws in Japan, it's only fair that he pays the consequences.

Frankly, the whole comparison is apples to oranges. Waisuki is a manga author who didn't exert himself or his intimate life details into his work, while Taki is a celebrity actor with far more physical prevalence.



I wasn't talking about the Watsuki scandal. I was talking about the last big scandal that invaded the forums.
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Morning Blue



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:33 pm Reply with quote
At least Square-Enix are being smarter about the replacing than Sega was, where they just flat-out removed the game from stores/digitally completely.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:35 am Reply with quote
Another life destroyed by the pointless war on drugs
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Alessa_SH1



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:15 am Reply with quote
I'm agree that japanese law erase them from the media because i believe this addicts or fishy people shouldn't appear there anymore. But i also hope this guy rehabs and finds a job like the rest of us.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:06 am Reply with quote
stannisbaratheon wrote:
Mimizuka, Yasuikuni shrine dedicating war criminals is A-ok, but Drugs are not? Not to mention Ruroni Kenshin's author who had child pornography, then again, Japan's policy on drugs isn't much different than any other asian country and America's policies just a couple decades ago. It isn't about the drugs, its about what drugs symbolize, the corruption, destruction, etc. Some argue Mexico is in such bad shape simply due to America's drug addiction.


Let me tell you a small, not-so open secret about America and it's relation with Japan and their military allies (and the same goes with my country, Mexico):

The United States has to some extent allowed its closest allies to get away with certain customs, ways of working and among other things that would not normally be allowed in their country under normal circumstances. Japan, who was defeated and invaded by the States after WWII, has many privileges that other U.S.-allied countries do not have, due to the fact that the Japanese have to tolerate the presence of military bases on their territory, as well as the American soldiers living inside them. Among those attributions are those of the U.S. not to say anything about how the Japanese government does or does not do within their country, something that normally rarely tolerates with other countries. The same goes, albeit in less degree, with Mexico, on the grounds both Mexico is a neighboring country and the soft power that country possess in Latin America, not to mention the whole war against drugs.

The only reason Japan banned child porn was because of the Olympic Games and the continuous American (and also western) pressure regarding it, since it was becoming a really serious problem for the American goverment due to the increasing influence the Japanese pop culture is having in both America and other western countries.

And if you think that sounds bad, you should see what both the American goverment and their military had to tolerate in Afghanistan, when they have to tolerate institualized rape among the Afghan soldiers when dealing with the Taliban.
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Anime was a mistake



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:55 pm Reply with quote
I'm sorry, but this response is overblown.
I just don't think blacklisting helps anyone. It doesn't deter others, it won't change the perpetrator.
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