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Aresef
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Do you realize how many people in and out of the industry would have to be involved in a massive conspiracy in order for all these claims to be false? And to what ends would people like Rial and Marchi and other of their supporters in the industry seek to have him ostracized if not as a consequence of loathsome behavior? Why him? Why now? Last edited by Aresef on Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:10 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Chrono1000
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capt_bunny
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Ehhhhh. I gotta somewhat disagree on this. Honestly, I think it was more than people calling out the sexual allegations. As someone who strongly supports for anyone to speak out no matter what should be said. /However/ I will say that some of the voice actresses were pretty awful during the time they were saying what Vic did to them. I am not gonna lie, I strongly dislike Monica and a couple of voice actresses but because of what they have said. How they acted towards the fans. Are we really going to forget that a voice actress wished assault on someone? They should have quietly taken this. Doesn't matter how popular he is when there is a lot of famous popular people that people understood on how wrong they were to do these horrible things to these women. How can you say you support the #MeToo movement when you are wishing harm upon fans who enjoyed your work? Practice what you preach of spreading love/peace is what they say so they could have ignored the hate instead of adding more fuel to the fire. |
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AmpersandsUnited
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He is a licensed lawyer. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but you are greatly misinformed. Although, whether you like him or not isn't really relevant. Vic's lawyer is Beard Harris Bullock Hughes who has been in contact with the owner of KamehaCon and has read Vic's contract themselves, in addition to the statements, phone logs, and information he collected from them surrounding the incident so hopefully they can get to the bottom of it and help the convention owner who claims he was being blackmailed and threatened by industry personnel into dropping Vic in the first place. |
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Junko666
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No offence but if you’re going to get involved in this sort of discussion then you should at least do some research first. Here’s the Statement from Vic that confirms he has filed a lawsuit. https://twitter.com/vicmignogna/status/1098394938453213185/photo/1 So much for those you tubers spreading ‘fictional conspiracy theories’. |
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brammerhammer23
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Many others posters have already mentioned what has been going on behind the scenes and it's all true. Vic Mignognas lawyer Ty Beard was directly involved in negotiating with Kamehacon to bring Vic back. It would have happened sooner but many VA did threaten them and kamehacon knew they might back out. Kamehacon made the right decision in the end. Cons are for the fans, and not the Voice Actors, panelists, or whoever else is involved. I'd say by the response the fans have won. The other VAs who have cancelled are just being petty. Kamehacon will have TONS of security so their safety will not be a problem. That's just a lame excuse for them breaking their contracts. I'm sure the language included to let them cancel does not include that they can cancel because Vic was invited back.
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Phraze
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Didn't think ANN would report on this. Nice.
The con is practically doing a disservice considering few people couldn't get refunds.. At least allow people to cancel reservations/invitations, if they want to throw in a wrench that is infamously controversial. The outrage is still free promo, I guess. lol |
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Ryasha
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"Retained a law firm" doesn't mean a lawsuit of any kind has been filed. That just means he hired a lawyer and nothing more. I retained a lawyer after I was in a car accident but no suit has actually been filed (yet) until I finish my recovery treatments and the doctors discharge me. So the common misconception of "He's suing and this is proof" is where the fictional conspiracy part comes in because there is no actual lawsuit as of yet. Just a lawyer hired by the accused to gather evidence to possibly make one. |
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GoddyNee
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....Yeah this is going to go over REAL well for Funimation
Serious Question: Do con guests have a contract to appear? I've never been to one or work with one so I seriously don't know. Because if the reason that they reinvited Vic was because they're going to get sued, that's messed up. And Monica Rial and the two actors from Funi just screwed themselves over as well. |
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Ashabel
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What it says is that he "retained a law firm in an attempt to salvage his reputation within the industry". He then spends an entire paragraph explicitly divorcing himself from the GoFundMe campaign, just in case if the whole thing falls through and he is held accountable for thousands of dollars magically disappearing into the nether realms. It's a very smart move on his account, I would say. It says nothing at all about the lawsuit. In the first place, libel lawsuits don't take over four weeks to get filed. You could maybe argue that he is gathering evidence that he didn't do any of the things he is accused of, but the catch here is that if he did absolutely nothing, then no evidence would exist at all; instead he should have a very easy time of simply debunking the supposedly fake evidence provided by Funimation and various voice actors in court. |
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El Hermano
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It appears public opinion is already starting to shift back in his favor. He's been receiving a number of con invites over the past month and has recently been to a few cons already. |
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Illia Sadri
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I was literally in the room as "he's too popular" came up. It was spoken to my face - roughly a decade ago. Keep in mind this came up with regards to him touching women. Handing out his phone number to girls who were clearly underage. Complaints from other VAs on his behavior. He's ruined panels and events for them in the past. Him holding a sermon in the hotel public area when told no and causing fire marshall adventures. Making a con rebook his flight home so he could get home for an emergency that turned out to be a date. Making con staffers cry. Didn't matter what it was, who it was toward or if it was illegal or just immoral. He would get banned by a con and ultimately it would pass because "He's too popular" That was the response I personally got when he got too touchy with me people. People saw. Nobody disbelieved me. I worked this convention for a decade - but we can't do anything. But please tell me from the comfort of your computer how you had that one great hug during a panel that one time and that's how you know he is a good man. I'm sure you know all from those 30 second encounters.
Monica is someone who is beloved on the convention scene. Having been involved with cons since around 2000 and having lots of friends who still are running cons, there is not a negative impression to be found. She's never been anything short of magnificent. Jamie came on the con scene after I was largely out of the day to day, but again... I have never heard anything negative at all... and I still hear stories. Samantha? Total sweetheart. Uncommonly nice. Funny how that works in that if you have a reputation of treating those around you with respect, it's easier to believe them over the guy who everyone had a story about over the span of a couple decades.
How can you be in support of #metoo and let someone abuse women over and over? Do you have any idea how much this hurts knowing that despite speaking up over and over we are still at square one with regard to taking the kinds of shenanigans that hurt a lot of us? How many people need to be hurt before we consider that sometimes our heroes let us down. Last edited by Illia Sadri on Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:54 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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ranran-001
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Is that what you got from his tweet? A statement that he is seeking legal advice to salvage his career? At no point has a lawsuit been filed, none. So for the time being some magical lawsuit that will re-instate Vic as a voice actor, and slay the evil people who care about social justice and mean mean feminists, is a fiction that only exists in the minds of the most deluded youtubers. |
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furyk
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Really glad that a con is staking their reputation on a voice actor who wasn't even canon six months ago vs the main antagonist of Super and the main female voice of Dragonball throughout the history of the series. Ignoring the politics of this, I'd be shocked if Rial ever worked with this con again and honestly, if I'm going to a Dragonball con, seeing Bulma is more important to me than seeing Broly.
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thekingsdinner
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I congratulate the convention. Rial, Sabat and all the others who are pulling out are absolutely pathetic for doing this.
I hope everyone who's going will still have a good time there and that includes Vic! Make it a good one, don't let anybody ruin this. |
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