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INTEREST: Multiple Voice Actors Cancel Kameha Con Appearances Amid Vic Mignogna Controversy

Don't know how you swap the A in my name for an O, twice, but that's neither here nor there.

You just said it yourself that he has not actually filed a lawsuit. Just because it's LIKELY doesn't mean it has happened yet. That's the point being made. That you can't say that there is one when there hasn't actually been one. Until it's actually made, it's fictitious.

My mention of retaining a lawyer for my accident by the way wasn't to equate it to sexual assault but to give an example of what it means to retain a law firm. I know they're different. But the definition of "Retain a law firm" is the same in both cases.

scrwbll19 wrote:

ranran-001 wrote: There isn't any discovery, because no lawsuit has been filed. Has anyone even filed a motion for discovery? I have seen none but hot air and wild speculations. Ty Beard, Vic's lawyer, has discussed discovery on Nick Rekieta's podcast. Feel free to listen, although many here are saying both are fakes. Either way, it shows a massive amount of ignorance, especially for those who have such strong opinions without supporting evidence. That is what matters in court at least.

That doesn't count. Please provide the formal documentation, i.e. motion of discovery. Podcasting with a man that weaves conspiracy theories is just beyond lame.

Drunk Samurai wrote:

Ron Toye said he was served them on Twitter.

Ron Toye's Twitter is private, how does that say he publicly announced he was served a summons? Your statement is credulous at best.

Again the clown show amounts to make a bunch of ridiculous statements, never backed up by real evidence, and then hope one of them sticks.

Ryasha wrote:

Don't know how you swap the A in my name for an O, twice, but that's neither here nor there. You just said it yourself that he has not actually filed a lawsuit. Just because it's LIKELY doesn't mean it has happened yet. That's the point being made. That you can't say that there is one when there hasn't actually been one. Until it's actually made, it's fictitious. My mention of retaining a lawyer for my accident by the way wasn't to equate it to sexual assault but to give an example of what it means to retain a law firm. I know they're different. But the definition of "Retain a law firm" is the same in both cases.

Because I thought your name was Ryasho not Ryasha so my apologies there.

As I explained, in his situation, the only reason he would retain a law firm is so that he can file a lawsuit. Its the same thing my Mother did when she was falsely accused. The remaining 10% consists of Monica and co dropping their accusations or coming to some kind of deal so he no longer has to file one.

There is a lot of legalese being thrown around right now over this. I can't say what the true reason for Kameha Con re-inviting Vic is, but I have heard that the contract with inviting Vic was broken and put Vic in a position of suing the con if so desired, so re-inviting him was an attempt to avoid such a scenario.

Naturally, Monica Rial, Christopher Sabat, et. al. are breaching their contracts with Kameha Con and this is going to make everything significantly uglier. I've also heard that Monica Rial, Christopher Sabat, and Chris Rager all threatened Kameha Con via emails and text messages and this is going to be a massive pile of evidence in court down the line one way or another.

This is just really ugly and I don't think anyone is coming out of this unscathed at the end. What should have been a quiet blacklisting of Vic has turned into a Pyrrhic Victory, where Vic is out of the industry but everyone else will be suffering permanent blows to their reputations and possibly lose a pile of money to Vic. Not to mention the re-ignition of the sub vs dub wars and permanent schisms in the anime fandom.

This could have all been avoided. Does no one follow legal advice anymore?

dmasterxd wrote:

It’s blatantly obvious that ANN is (and has been) only offering a one sided view through out this whole controversy, a pointless one might I add. As someone else has previously stated it’s innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around...False accusations are just as bad as the actual act iself in case you didn’t know. And time and time again, it’s been shown that these accusations are far more likely to be false than not. People constantly faking evidence being a prime example...Also these claims have been refuted. By a girl in a picture with Vic that someone one else tried to use against him. She herself was the one who refuted that claim saying it was consented and that she was on his side. Hmmmmm. And that’s just one of many many examples...

Vic has had the opportunity to respond to these allegations. He has released about two statements, when the allegations first surfaced and a week or two later. Both responses have been covered by ANN. Vic has also issued strong denials of the more serious accusations, the ones in regards to sexual assault, harassment, and inappropriate importuning with minors. ANN has covered Vic's denials.

How is that one sided? Does ANN need to cover Youtubers with no connection to this case? Nope. They are under no obligation to publish and give credence to basement dwellers, incellers, conspiracy weavers, and spin doctors.

Understand that these kinds of reactions, the threats and the goddamn SWAT prank of all things are the reason why it takes years and years for many accusers to come forward and feel safe. If you have any questions as to why women don't come forward the Vic fans are showing outright. My friends who work cons that canceled him have dealt with threats over this fallout. A couple are seriously worried about safety at their respective events and trying to get ahead of it.

.... Mean? I'm sorry, please look at the sorts of prerogatives I'm getting and you think I am being mean for giving the hard truth that the backers and the fans who don't believe any number of testimony is not enough.

And then extrapolate that this has been the exact experience I have seen over and over again for 20 years. I refuse sugar coating at this point because it meant nothing got done. It didn't matter with Monica's situation, Or Jessie, or mine or any of the others and thus it was allowed to keep going. Other people have been affected because 15 years ago... 10 years ago nobody took action.