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Galap
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I also agree that the series did not try to paint the Abh as particularly right in everything they do. They're not a good empire. They're not an evil empire. And I like that quite a lot; it points to the fact that on a global (or galactic) level, most things simply... are, without there really being any concerted effort on anyone's part to make them good or bad. They're just a civilization full of different people who are following their own incentives, just like the other civilizations.
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RealMTL
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Watched this one a while back and I was pleasantly surprised at how good it was. I did think that Jinto was too much of a pacifist though.
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Greed1914
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I could see either scenario, to be honest. It took quite a while for them to get materials for many of those license rescues, so it's conceivable that they got handed lesser materials because that is what was available. I could also see it as being considered a "good enough" situation. As much as some people, myself included, enjoyed the series, it's not going to be a big hit for Funimation, and even if they noticed the materials were lacking, they probably decided it wasn't worth rocking the boat. Not ticking off licensors was the reasoning given years ago when Zac asked them why it had been two years (at the time) since they announced a bunch of Sunrise rescues with no progress on releasing them. The dub definitely isn't very good, at least not by today's standards. I've been watching some things with old Ocean Group dubs on them, and they tend to be very flat. At some point, they turned a corner a produced really good dubs, but this was before that happened. |
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Mugen1style
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My fears have been confirmed I was very excited to buy a BD ver. of Outlaw Star man was I disappointed. Having read the quality issues with Crest of stars I will just stay with my Bandia releases. I always found the so called imperialism aspect of the Ahb to be a contrast of scientific logic to emotional logic. The humankind are portrayed as being ruled by emotion and not really paying any mind to the consequences of this mind set. Where as the Ahb are very logical and for the most part ignore the emotional side of things either is an extreme. Balance is required for a healthy civilization.
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Key
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Um, it was considered pretty bad by the standards of the time it came out, too. In a review I wrote for the series back in 2003 or 2004, before I came on staff at ANN, I gave the dub an independent D+ grade. (And for the record, I would probably grade the series higher in writing now than I did then.) |
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Barciad
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Try watching 'Banner of the Stars', and if you're not laughing by the end of it... Also, Admiral Spoor. Seriously though, how can a show with a support character like Admiral Beneej Spoor not be one almighty piss take? On a more substantive level, watching Crest of the Stars is akin to viewing an old BBC drama. Like 'I, Claudius' or 'Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy' for example. The production is cheap and as dated, and the pacing measured. All as one would expect of that era. Yet on the other hand, the writing and performances are without equal. There is also the collective literary origins that they all share. Hence stories with some actual depth to them. |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Wrangler
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i LOVE the series, all of them except maybe 3rd one, which i wasn't keen on way story was done. Its pity there won't be more outside of that special "lost" episode that coming with series.
I own the dvds, but i'm out of a dvd player now. So i can't justify replacing the ones i have, can't use |
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xyz
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You can use your blu-ray player to play the dvds. |
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Zeino
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I did watch it and not a giggle at the end. And Spoor is no more ridiculous than some of the more eccentric commanding officers in Legend of The Galactic Heroes. I think is is a case of you mistaking your vision for normality. |
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Zalis116
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I'm sure putting 13+ episodes on 2 discs instead of 4 didn't help. Times may have changed, but the limitations of DVD space haven't.
I'd put Scryed up there in Big O's realm as a title that got North American TV exposure, but yeah, the rest increasingly feel like "the dregs" as you go down the tiers: "New enough, in HD/16:9, should look presentable on BD for modern audiences" Sacred Seven, Kurokami, Girl Who Leapt Through Space "Had some degree of respectability and following once upon a time" Infinite Ryvius, Argentosoma, Overman King Gainer, Zegapain "What was that show again"? Betterman, Brain Powered, Z-Mind |
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Levonr
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Nah, most releases have 6-7 episodes on a single DVD and still look great. Its not a compression issue. FUNimation's DVD's are just more cropped & blurry for whatever reason. |
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BlueAlf
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Just a reminder that J-Novel Club recently started translating the novels. It provides better insight for the story. They also provide pronunciation guide for the Abh language.
Their translation is really good. |
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Stampeed Valkyrie
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It's been a really long time since I have gone back and rewatched Crest of the Stars. Does the Funi release add anything the Bandai release missed? I remember this and Banner of the Stars 1 and 2... I think the 3rd OVA was never released and is fansub only.
I've read the Crest trilogy in english thanks to Tokyo Pop. And some of the Banner of the Stars from Fan sites. The story is pretty diverse and plenty of time is given to universe building. The Abh empire is interested in the control of Space, the planets that reside within them are mostly left to self govern. This correlates to who the Abh were and to their origins.. not going to post spoilers.. read the books. As for the dub.. meh IMO.. modern dubs are garbage. There are some exceptions but bar is very low. This dub is dated, but not worth stressing over. I don't see this series as a Satire even in the slightest way, again I'd recommend getting more familiar with the subject matter before making a broad statement. Good stuff, I am hoping to be able to read more the novels once J-Novel puts them out. |
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Key
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The Banner set is supposed have the OVA, which would make for its first legal Western release. I might buy the set for that alone, since the fansub I've long had for it has awful video quality. I'd expect it to be subbed-only, though. And again, the quality of the dub for Crest is an exception; it's definitely not indicative of dub quality in general at the time or since then, which is why it irritates me when people use it as an example of the "norm." |
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