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meruru
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No matter how polite you say it, criticizing for being slow is completely pointless. Since when has more pressure helped the creative process go faster? Or, he could let the quality drop in the interest of finishing, but oh, wait, everyone got mad at HBO when they did that. Anyways, I'm over here not really caring either way because I'm already of the opinion his books aren't actually all that good. Why consult him on a video game? It'll have a pretty engrossing grimdark atmosphere, but it will also just meander pointlessly for 1000+ hours. |
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steelmirror
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I would love more creative interaction between big US content creators and big Japanese ones. I feel like both Hollywood and anime/Japanese media are in ruts of their own making, but they are such completely different ruts that getting inspiration from each other might be a cool way of shaking loose something new. Lots of my favorite stories were the result of serious and obvious cultural cross-pollination: Avatar the Last Airbender, Blood Blockade Battlefront, My Hero Academia, The Matrix, that one episode of Gravity Falls with the yandere waifu... I'll be keeping an eye out for whatever comes of this collaboration, hope it's good! |
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Agent355
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I'm sure his publishers have gotten money from HBO, too, they'll be fine.
I wouldn't be surprised if the popularity of the "filler arc" of his property contributed to his writer's block, and if his fans back off and give him some time now that the show's off the air, he'll be able to write again. |
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AmpersandsUnited
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Maybe George R. R. Martin had the wind from his sails taken from him. A Dance with Dragons came out only a few months after the TV show premiered. Maybe he realizes the show ended up eclipsing the books and people care more about HBO's version than his own and that demotivated him. People are always going to associate his work with HBO's actors and all the changes they made to his books. Similar pop culture media like Lord of the Rings and Marvel movies have also taken over from their source material and are treated as the default version of those works in pop culture now as well. I could see that being quite a bit demoralizing to a creator.
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BadNewsBlues
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Yeah if you're continuing to follow the works even while being aware of how it's been drawn out you kinda are. If this were like the stupidity with Duke Nukem Forever where you had people preordering the game when it was announced way back in 97 then that be understandable but simply complaining about Martin taking his sweet time to finish up something that no one's pre bought just seems a bit problematic to me.
Given the huge amount of asshurt the TV series eventually got regarding dropped or rushed plot lines I would think he would. |
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doctordoom85
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FIRST DRAFT. You don't try to nail the first draft completely, it's why the second, third, etc. drafts exist in the first place. But I don't think Martin fully appreciates this. It feels like he's trying to perfect the first draft which is not a generally reasonable way to write. |
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H. Guderian
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"Since when has more pressure helped the creative process go faster?"
Nintendo: "Make a sequel to Ocarina of Time in one year" Result: Best 3D Zelda game. Not all pressure is good, but good art is often made under pressure. OT Star Wars was intense pressure, prequels and sequels were not. As for GRRM taking forever, I am completely free to voice my concerns of him taking forever, and he is free to not finish. If I ask you a question in the forum and you respond, you may expect a response and I may not provide. It is a courtesy thing. He really should (doesn't have to) get moving on that. I think the longer it goes on the more annoyed we'll all be if it is merely mediocre. "You delayed a decade just for something average?" Why not chop the next two books into 3-4 smaller books and work on them in more digestible chunks? Maybe that fixed ending he has just can't work and he should let the characters 'grow'. He says that is his writing style. Let the characters find their own endings without trying to force a conclusion. By the time he gets there this might be for the best. |
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KabaKabaFruit
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You're arguing semantics here. I understand your love for the novels just as much as anyone else here but unless Martin himself has a legally binding obligation to finish books 6 and 7 within a reasonable timeframe, any form of criticism directed at him will be pissing in the wind at best. Martin doesn't owe us a deadline whether you like it or not and quite frankly, I've seen enough of this crap being directed at J.K. Rowling over the years which made me feel bad not only as a fan of her works, but as a fan of literature. Obnoxious attitudes are self-fulfilling at best and doesn't get the ball rolling for either side here unless you think Martin himself will stop in these forums, read our posts and hang his head in shame for keeping the fans in limbo, which he won't! |
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Nordhmmer
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23 years |
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KabaKabaFruit
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So be it. |
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BadNewsBlues
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Well given the benefit of hindsight and knowing how he paces himself would anyone want him to do multiple drafts in the first place?
Yeah I don't know many people who rank Majora's Mask higher than Ocarina of Time....especially when MM weirdly jettisoned characters like Zelda from the narrative and had a plot that while not bad by any means felt a bit of step back from OoT. |
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