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AiddonValentine
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Yeah, they've devoted so much time to defending Vic that to stop now would mean everything they've done was for nothing. Sunk cost fallacy and all that. |
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Commander Cluck
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So am I the only one who read all that and thought "Wow, they just threw the other defendants under the bus"? They just flat out say they can't be held responsible for the defamatory and tortious interference done by the other defendants. Plus, if they succeed with this TCPA then they can peace out of the lawsuit which means the other three are stuck footing the bill on any awarded damages. I wonder if the VAs secretly want this to fail since it's in their best interest for Funimation to stay in it since they're the ones with the deep pockets.
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TrailOfDead
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I think more likely is that they're not worried because their lawyers know there's no case, like every other lawyer who hasn't been actively soliciting money from uninformed, but highly invested fans
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ranran-001
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That will be the end result. From the various files that have been posted online, there is no dispute on Vic being named a public figure, let alone a limited public figure. That makes the case impossibly hard for him to win. This is true for his lawsuit against Funimation as it is against the remaining four defendants. Let's also not forget, Vic's lawyer gave a laughably bad summation of all the supposed "defamatory" statements that were said. According to real lawyers who have read it, there really isn't anything in it that comes across as defamation. Some are just dumb, like one which I'm paraphrasing and censoring, "Monica called Vic a doodoo head, that's not true, Vic's head is not made of doodoo that's defamation." The end result will be Vic losing and having to pay for the legal expenses of all four named defendants. That's what is likely to happen. |
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BodaciousSpacePirate
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I read it more as a "contrary to the other side's claims, there's no bus under which to throw the other defendants" statement. |
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Greed1914
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That was actually the part that stuck out to me the most. It's true that Funimation has no control over what the other defendants say or do, and I can't say I'm entirely surprised to see them take this stance since it wouldn't make much sense for a company to go out of its way to protect contractors since that makes it seem more like they are employees. Even if it comes off a bit like letting the others fend for themselves, I can't blame them for doing it. |
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ChaosTheory
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What were the actual tweets by Funi? I've got no stance other then my strong dislike of social court. Sure, the system is flawed, but it's better then the rampant guilty until proven innocent attitude.
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NiPah
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ANN actually posted a news article about them back when it happened: animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-02-11/funimation-will-not-engage-vic-mignogna-on-future-productions/.143291 Here were the tweets: https://mobile.twitter.com/FUNimation/status/1095087396209770501 |
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Commander Cluck
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I mean, you could say the same about Vic. He was just a contract, so whatever he did or didn't do is no concern of them, but they still felt the need to step in and acted like they were responsible for him. People will associate actions and statements of people with companies and brands. But out of all the defendants Funi always had the best case. They've only made 3 tweets about Vic, verses the other defendants who have made hundreds (probably thousands by now) among other stuff. It's probably why they're the only ones who actually filed a TCPA while the others moved on to discovery and two of them have already been deposed. Edited to remove full names from post. ~ANN Managing Editor~ |
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SquadmemberRitsu
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See, the real kicker in this whole case is the fact that Vic admitted to some degree of wrongdoing. He downplayed it, but it seemed his initial approach was to put on a show and hope to be be immediately forgiven. So he can’t claim they’re baseless. He provided a base. It’s pretty obvious that taking them to court was a hasty change in direction, likely after certain people egged him on.
I doubt Vic believes in his own innocence, nor do I believe his own lawyers do either. If I had to guess, he seems to know exactly what he did wrong but doesn’t understand why what he did is considered wrong. As we already know, the outcome they hoped for is a settlement. But it really seems like it’s too late for that now. To a certain degree I would say he’s being preyed upon by those heading his case. But given his own conduct, some of which I’ve personally witnessed, I have no sympathy for him in any negative outcome. The financial loss that could come from this, even less conventions wanting to side with him knowing that his OWN court case only further legitimised the claims, his lawyer ‘friends’ leaving him out to dry while they find a more profitable grift, all that would be a personal hell of his own creation.
Helpful wholesome tip for the super fans out there, it’s Mignogna. 9 times out of 10 it’s in the title of the article you’re responding to. |
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Utsuro no Hako
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Sony's taking the position that every part of this lawsuit is BS. That includes the charge that Rial and Toye were acting as agents of Funimation when they trashtalked Mignogna. The lawyers are just being thorough, same as when they argue Mignogna's a limited-purpose public figure right after arguing he's a staight-up public figure. |
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Utsuro no Hako
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The allegations against Mignogna include bad behavior while he was working at Funi, and at cons where he was promoting Funi releases. That's completely different from saying Funi is responsible for what Rial says on her private Twitter account, or that Toye, who doesn't even work for Funi, is their agent. If a company has a credible report that a contractor is harassing one of their employees, and they do nothing to fix it, they can be held accountable for subsequent wrongdoing. |
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Gina Szanboti
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My favorite was his credit in Midori Days as "Vic Filletoftommorow," [sic] with its triple pun on filet mignon, mañana (tomorrow), and the pronunciation of Mignogna. |
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ChaosTheory
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Not a lot there, though they shouldn't have done the condone/mission signaling. It could be argued that is labeling Vic as guilty although. However they did claim investigation so the case probably has no change against Funi if those were the only tweets. Whether or not he is, social court should not be allowed to dictate so much, they've proven repeatedly to be in the wrong. |
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Aresef
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It's clear that Funimation took the allegations seriously and handled them with great care, sending the reports up the ladder to Sony, rather than Sony turning the screws on Funimation. It becomes ever clearer, too, Mignogna's lawyers are not competent.
As a member of the media myself (local media in Baltimore), I'm interested in the public figure aspect of this case. Funimation is making the case that since he is a public figure and leveraged his public presence both to address and repeat the allegations against him (without denying them), he has no claim here. To the comments of other posters, they're not throwing the co-defendants under the bus, they're saying that the claims made regarding tweets by the co-defendants aren't Funimation's problem since none of those people were or are employees of Funimation, and none speak for Funimation. I'm no longer in the prediction business, since I've been wrong too many times. But Funimation seems to have a good chance of getting its legal fees, and the co-defendants a good chance of prevailing at trial, if it even gets there. I just can't wait for us to be done with that pervert. |
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