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EP. REVIEW: Fire Force

James, Episode 18 is consistent with the manga. Covers chapters 63 to ⅓ of 66. It's not anime-only filler. What this episode covers is to provide the basis for some power-up and more equipment that will play its part later. If there was no training bit here, you would very likely complaint about ass-pull power-up later. You can't have your cake here and eat it later.

James, Episode 18 is consistent with the manga. Covers chapters 63 to ⅓ of 66. It's not anime-only filler. What this episode covers is to provide the basis for some power-up and more equipment that will play its part later. If there was no training bit here, you would very likely complaint about ass-pull power-up later. You can't have your cake here and eat it later.

leongsh wrote:

James, Episode 18 is consistent with the manga. Covers chapters 63 to ⅓ of 66. It's not anime-only filler. What this episode covers is to provide the basis for some power-up and more equipment that will play its part later. If there was no training bit here, you would very likely complaint about ass-pull power-up later. You can't have your cake here and eat it later.

Completely agree with this post. Episodes like this may not be exciting but they are necessary. And come on man an arc just ended we can't just jump right into another one without any sort of break whatsoever.

Kisuke525 wrote:

leongsh wrote: James, Episode 18 is consistent with the manga. Covers chapters 63 to ⅓ of 66. It's not anime-only filler. What this episode covers is to provide the basis for some power-up and more equipment that will play its part later. If there was no training bit here, you would very likely complaint about ass-pull power-up later. You can't have your cake here and eat it later. Completely agree with this post. Episodes like this may not be exciting but they are necessary. And come on man an arc just ended we can't just jump right into another one without any sort of break whatsoever.

But episodes like this that are necessary can also be exciting, interesting, funny etc. Like James said, it was harmless but also kinda boring for him. It didn't have to be kinda boring.

Yes of course if there was no training then their new powers would come out of nowhere. The issue isn't that there was training, it's that it wasn't very interesting for him.

The episode does have funny moments they just don't really land with the reviewer because he seems to hate Okubo's humor. And you act like the episode wasn't interesting or exciting at all which I personally don't agree with. I mean how interesting and exciting can training and set up get anyway? Some series would have dragged out something like this for multiple episodes so I think the training and set up in the episode was actually handled pretty well. But as usual the reviewer finds something to complain about instead of something to be happy about. I mean the series isn't amazing or anything but half the time the guy makes it sound like mediocre garbage.

I actually didn't give my opinion on the episode at all, but yeah, that's all subjective. Some won't find it funny or interesting and will think the show is mediocre or even worse, there's nothing wrong with that or with liking it. And in-between arc chapters/episodes can be great. Look at One Piece for example, some of the fandoms biggest hype moments come in between arcs when we're focusing on set up and worldbuilding. And recently the training episodes of Kimetsu no Yaiba in my opinion were much better than a lot of the "more important" episodes.

Fanservice and goofy jokes for instance are pretty common in battle shonen but I have never seen them hated on this much.

Fire Force makes me think it could achieve quite a bit more than just being alright popcorn fare; sometimes it even very clearly puts in the work to achieve pretty respectable emotional highs. But it pretty consistently sabotages itself in the process, and it's disappointment that it clearly could be a lot better than it is if it just stopped shooting itself in the foot that makes me want to still comment on it.

Secondarily (for me; this may be primary for others), I also think most shounen fan-service is not nearly as degrading to the characters involved as the way in which Tamaki in particular has been deployed in Fire Force. That, too, calls for special comment.

Secondarily (for me; this may be primary for others), I also think most shounen fan-service is not nearly as degrading to the characters involved as the way in which Tamaki in particular has been deployed in Fire Force. That, too, calls for special comment.

...this is how things are in the world of Fire Force and in Okubo's other series Soul Eater as well. His works have a serious tone overall but both series are crazy and kinda wacky, the kinda series where anything can happen at any time no matter how ridiculous that's part of their charm.

Kisuke525 wrote:

...this is how things are in the world of Fire Force and in Okubo's other series Soul Eater as well. His works have a serious tone overall but both series are crazy and kinda wacky, the kinda series where anything can happen at any time no matter how ridiculous that's part of their charm.

Off the top of my head, I don't really agree with this comparison. I don't remember the same kind of consistent clash of tone being a problem in Soul Eater. I adored Soul Eater, and have a much smaller list of complaints about it (most of those pertaining to what I later came to understand was an anime-only ending that seemed pretty clumsy).

It would be quite a bit of work to dig up specific scenes and discuss that substantively, and doing so would pull us pretty far from the main topic of this thread, though, so I'll let it go havin9g said that.