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INTEREST: Best and Worst Manga of 2019 Results - Comic-Con International


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spark67



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:30 pm Reply with quote
I never thougth to see Eden Zero and Bleach as best of something, Also Hachimaru is like the most boring, bland, stupid slow manga of 2019.

BeastStars is amazing, but not for kids.
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ThatGuyWhoLikesThings



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:32 pm Reply with quote
Robiii wrote:
Whoever wrote the worst manga list needs to get slapped in a balls. What in the gods name.


a ball? or balls? i think it should be clarified whether one is getting smacked or two
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Robiii



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:34 pm Reply with quote
Whoever wrote the worst manga list needs to get slapped in the balls. What in the gods name.
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kpossibles



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:34 pm Reply with quote
ThatGuyWhoLikesThings wrote:
Everyone's shocked by Mob being on anyone's worst list, but here I am surprised there's no love or mention of The Quintessential Quintuplets, as far as i can see at least. It's one of the most popular ongoing romance manga, likely the most popular overall right now.


Working professionals usually have a different pick than the general public! 5toubun is good but probably not outstanding if that had to be the 1-pick of that person. I've read a few volumes and it's not for me; it could be the same for those panelists.

>including Mob Psycho 100 in the worst manga list
I definitely would not include Mob on the worst list if you've ever tried to read the C-list Yen Press or Seven Seas titles. MP100 has a simplistic art style but u could compare the early volumes to early Attack on Titan volumes, which had some REALLY tough artwork and less fantastic panelling that's shown in MP100 early volumes. Reminder that the anime is based on the manga and some major scenes are based on the panelling of the original. And the humor is all from the manga TBH. Don't forget that ONE wrote the original One Punch Man and got Murata's attention thru the web comic!!!

I agree that Shield Hero deserves to be on that list though. It has way too much dialogue like most isekai LN turned manga. Also, it's very controversial in a lot of ways that it chooses plot points and how it handles certain characters...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:39 pm Reply with quote
Well, guys. IF you wanted to know WHY they chose these I guess you had to be there.

It's not like this is a definitive list that was published with no commentary. It was a PANEL, the choices were personal, there was an audience. There would be clapping and booing and defenses given and counterpoints from the others given.

Maybe it was a bit silly just to report on their choices without reporting on their reasoning- but it is just an interest article and it got you talking... it's just a little funny that so many people are saying "How could they?" without realizing that those reasons would have been given in the panel.
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CrimsonDX



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:51 pm Reply with quote
The fact that you have If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord, The Rising of the Shield Hero, and The Seven Deadly Sins on a short list of worst manga year just reaffirms the fact that this site has terrible taste that is most often colored by a severe political agenda. If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord in particular does not deserve to be on that kind of list as it is one of the most heart warming and amazing books I have ever read.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:00 pm Reply with quote
CrimsonDX wrote:
The fact that you have If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord, The Rising of the Shield Hero, and The Seven Deadly Sins on a short list of worst manga year just reaffirms the fact that this site has terrible taste that is most often colored by a severe political agenda. If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord in particular does not deserve to be on that kind of list as it is one of the most heart warming and amazing books I have ever read.



Only one person from this site was on the panel of judges.

Anyways, how old does a series have to be to no longer qualify as "new". I love Beastars but it won a 'new manga' award in 2018 as well, let series that are actually new get a shoutout.
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ThatGuyWhoLikesThings



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:02 pm Reply with quote
CrimsonDX wrote:
The fact that you have If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord, The Rising of the Shield Hero, and The Seven Deadly Sins on a short list of worst manga year just reaffirms the fact that this site has terrible taste that is most often colored by a severe political agenda. If It's for My Daughter, I'd Even Defeat a Demon Lord in particular does not deserve to be on that kind of list as it is one of the most heart warming and amazing books I have ever read.


While Seven Deadly Sins might be a bit of an extreme choice for Worst, Fantasy Usagi Drop is, well, Fantasy Usagi Drop with pretty much an identical ending that will undeniably upset a lot of people, most even. But even disregarding all the controversy surrounding Shield Hero, it has plenty of genuinely awful writing that loves wasting your time with a whiny prick of a main character whom the story pretends is actually a super awesome guy. I can see why plenty of people would hate it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:40 pm Reply with quote
My main takeaway from this is that the people at this panel don't read enough manga or are trying to stir the pot if they think these series, which are(mostly) mediocre, except for Mob, which is quite good in the eyes of most.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:41 pm Reply with quote
I'm kind of surprised we're all complaining about the panelists' picks rather than posting our own. Mind if I start?

  • Best New Manga for Kids/Teens - I don't have a pick here.
  • Best New Manga for Grown-Ups - O Maidens in Your Savage Season - I am allowed to agree with Zac twice in each calendar year. I'm now playing my first such card for 2019. This is weird, wonderful, too-true stuff.
  • Best Continuing Series for Kids/Teens - So Cute, It Hurts! - Kind of what I remember shoujo being: fun, sweet, melodramatic, and romantic. It's so retro that the main character siblings are interested in other people, and not each other… imagine that! Only drawbacks are that it may be completed at this point, and that one volume is M-rated (I'd have given it an Older Teen, but still worth being aware of).
  • Best Continuing Series for Grown-Ups - Bloom Into You - Gorgeous, thoughtful, surprising, swoon-worthy. I was so happy it got an anime; happier still that it was good.
  • Worst Manga for Anyone, Any Age - Magical Girl Spec Ops Asuka - I thought the combination of magical girls and more realistic military elements would click, but it can't overcome a really unpleasant fixation on graphic torture porn, and a plot that's yet another puzzle-box of "oh no, betrayed again" reveals. Blech. The target audience here is probably better served by something like the Saga of Tanya the Evil LNs.
  • Most Anticipated New Manga - Nothing I know for sure I'll like, though I'm interested in Square Enix's entry into the Western manga market (I'll probably check out Wandering Witch - The Journey of Elaina at least).
  • Most Wanted (Unlicensed) Manga - Muv-Luv Alternative - Yes, I know I bring up this franchise a lot, but hear me out: this is a rare case where adapting a video game into a manga makes a ton of sense. The Muv-Luv universe was steadily developed with spin-offs after the game's 2006 release, and the manga shrewdly works in some of that material when it can (at one point even going back to Kimi ga Nozomu Eien / Rumbling Hearts for the alt-timeline backstories of those characters). Plus, it can illustrate scenes that the VN just talked about instead of showing; sprites and backgrounds are expensive, apparently.
  • Underrated but Awesome Manga - Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun - Can something be underrated if everyone's still reading it? I think Nozaki-kun is a slow-and-steady crowd-pleaser, despite being years removed from the hype of the anime, and long since caught up with the Japanese releases. Even as a simple four-panel gag manga that we only get about once a year, it keeps coming up with hilarious situations, uses its cast well without overreaching to extend it, and doesn't coast along with reference humor (a weakness of the similar Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku). So, “underrated” in that we forget sometimes how consistently good it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:56 pm Reply with quote
This is further evidence to me that ANN'S critics are incredibly biased.
I stopped reading there reviews a while ago.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:00 pm Reply with quote
#854626 wrote:
This is further evidence to me that ANN'S critics are incredibly biased.
I stopped reading there reviews a while ago.

You realize only one of the panelists was from ANN, right? Like, the article literally listed all the panelists’ affiliations in the first paragraph?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:14 pm Reply with quote
LMAO the comments thinking ANN had anything to do with the choices...


I was surprised by Mob Psycho, but I think what Rob needs to called out more for is putting Bleach in the "continuing" section. Can someone break it to him softly that the manga ended in 2016, and the last volume was published in English in 2018 (with the exception of the 3-in-1 edition, which still doesn't constitute "continuing"). I can understand it if by continuing he's referring to English publishing, and that it was published within the last year, but I still feel like there would've been better, theoretically more correct choices.

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I'm also confused by Beastars being regarded as "kids", but then I only read like 3 chapters (but they started with someone having been eaten, so...?). I guess I can appreciate pushing the furry agenda at a young age though.


Also I'm surprised people aren't angrily defending Shield Hero manga.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:22 pm Reply with quote
ErikaD.D wrote:
I think Eden's Zero is not for kids because it contains fan service and ecchi.


And don't forget the more graphic violence like impalement, face-burning, and smashing a glass bottle while it's stuffed down a guy's throat.

But real talk, it's still shonen manga, which means its target audience is teens and preteens, and Japan's standards are different from ours.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:20 pm Reply with quote
Why do people always assume everything and everyone has a political agenda behind their choices? Quit reading so deep into stuff. Seriously.

I'm kinda okay with all of these choices. I haven't read the Mob Psycho manga so I can't comment on that one. But there are quite a few unlicensed manga that I would love to see come to the US, so my personal Most Wanted (Unlicensed) Manga(s) would be...

Hibiki's Magic (Well, technically it was licensed by Tokyopop, but only two volumes got released before Tokyopop went under for a while, and it has since ended in Japan. I would love to see this be re-licensed, re-released and completed)
Sakura Gari
Anne of Green Gables manga (Yes, there is one. I checked)
More Starlight To Your Heart (Another manga that was previously licensed but never went past volume 2)
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