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kotelo_



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:49 pm Reply with quote
Izanagi009 wrote:
The show may not have any heavy thematic content like Fate Zero
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Izanagi009



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:27 am Reply with quote
This was definitely a setup episode but the visual framing, lighting and what not are striking enough to keep me invested.

This will definitely pick up and I’m going to be in for the ride
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darkchibi07



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:39 pm Reply with quote
There is something exciting about having most of the characters you are familiar with from past original episodes converging to this major arc. It helps alleviate getting too bombarded with a lot of characters that will be involved in this mystery. Though out of curiosity, are Flat and Svin also going to get involved in it as well? It's going to feel silly considering they're on the OP sequence, and they don't do much in the grand scheme of things.
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SilverTalon01



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:54 pm Reply with quote
They did a nice job with Heph's design. I kept thinking she looked familiar, but I couldn't place it until the episode revealed her identity. Her outfit is very reminiscent of Alexander's.
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Doodleboy



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:28 pm Reply with quote
Two things I like about the episode is that you could immeadiately tell that Hephaestia was a servant because her costume was ridiculous even by the standards of Lord El-Melloi.

That and as soon as you realize she's a servant you go "Oh crap, oh crap, Waver and Gray are so dead.".

It's akin to the scene in the 08th-MS Team where the protagonists realize in horror that they're fighting an ace-pilot.
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natchu96



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:28 am Reply with quote
I feel like the review is missing the point with Waver not recognizing Hephaestion here. It's not understandable at all, it's a big point of confusion. Waver should have seen Hephaestion before, within Iskandar's summoned army during the war, if she is the confidante and general she claims to be. People with far less connection to Iskandar had come forth in that reality marble, after all.

The fact that he doesn't recognize her and that he realizes this as shockingly strange makes me feel like there's another mystery afoot with regards to her identity.
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FilthyCasual



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:20 pm Reply with quote
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I'm not sure what to make yet of Hephastion also having Mystic Eyes; they seem too valuable to be just given to a Servant.
Fate/Stay Night's Rider also has Mystic Eyes; specifically, spoiler[the Mystic Eyes of Petrification, given that she's Medusa.]

There's also spoiler[Suzuka Gozen] from Fate/Extra CCC: Fox Tail and spoiler[Miyamoto Musashi] from Fate/Grand Order on the Mystic Eye front, so while uncommon, it's not absurd for a Servant to have Mystic Eyes.
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Luis Enrique Teheran



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:03 pm Reply with quote
If you don't know what murders they are talking about, they refer to those that occurred in Garden of Sinners (Kara no Kyoukai).
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darkchibi07



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:24 am Reply with quote
Luis Enrique Teheran wrote:
If you don't know what murders they are talking about, they refer to those that occurred in Garden of Sinners (Kara no Kyoukai).


The Nasu-verse lore continues to deepen! Do you know which one in particular?
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casenumber00



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:16 am Reply with quote
Luis Enrique Teheran wrote:
If you don't know what murders they are talking about, they refer to those that occurred in Garden of Sinners (Kara no Kyoukai).


Not true. Nearly all the franchise of TYPEMOON take place in different parallel universes. Fate and Kara no Kyoukai dont share the same universe even if some of the characters exist in both. With that being said, FGO and FSN are also separate.

About Hep's eyes, those are they are pretty common. This anime hasn't made a few things clear but mystic eyes are pretty common with powerful and influential mages. The eyes you have seen in other works of TYPEMOON are very powerful and exceptional eyes like the Shikis' MEoDP, Medusa's MEoPertrification, and Asagami's (KnK) MEoDistortion. Yes, a lot of powerful mages have mystic eyes, like Enchantment (Arcuied had it and most vampires along with Touko and Alice Kounji from Mahou Tsukai no Yoru), Binding (illiya), Compulsion (Hep), Hypnotic suggestion (Ciel), Flame (Yvette L. Lehrman of Case Files), along with Illusion, Jinx and Contract, but they can pretty much be easily avoided or dispelled by other mage's own power or magic warding amulets.
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