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AiddonValentine
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And even when they lose they'll somehow convince themselves that the facts weren't all on the table, or that Funimation/Rial cheated, or whatever asinine conspiracy theory they feel like making up. I really hope this is the final hint that gets it through Vic's head that he needs to GO AWAY. |
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Sticks
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In the end, I’m just hoping that this will all be over with. Vic needs to apologize for his behavior (which I’m sure he’ll never do) and the truth of his behavior needs to set an example that this will not be tolerated any more.
But the arrogance of threatening a judge?? There’s no excuse for that nonsense. If Vic were smart (which it’s obvious he’s not), he’d tell his ridiculous fans to stop it. It’s not helping him. As for his career... it’s over now people. Quit trying to support this man for his inappropriate behavior and let him fade away. There won’t be any chance of him coming back like he was before. |
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Gemnist
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At the very least, they'll become like a hate group - incredibly vocal but with no ability to create any influence. In the vitriolic world we live in today, an outcome where the bad guys lose the war yet still bitch about the outcome is the best we can hope for. |
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jellybeanbandit
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Terrible idea. You can't control what other people do. Anyone who tries to apologize on behalf of some group people is either a huge schmuck or just dumb and doesn't realize that doing that just lets people guilt-by-association you even more. And anyone who tries to use the actions of other people to guilt-by-association someone else is just a dishonest concern troll. Vic hasn't said a single thing about this case or Tweeted anything. People trying to say Vic "sicced" his fans on people are just liars. Especially when the defendants, their followers, their allies, and everyone else have been running around attacking and threatening people far more and been going after the men and women who discredited a lot of their claims, all the cons hosting Vic, and Vic's fans in general. Apparently threatening to kill Chuck Huber and his family for coming out in favor of Vic is A-OK and not worth talking about  Don't see any of the defendants or other people coming out to apologize on behalf of them or any of the other people Kickvic has gone after. Don't try to hold people accountable for other peoples actions, it makes no sense.
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DuskyPredator
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You can't control what people do, but you can influence it, and silence for public figure can be as much as an influence as actually saying something. If you are such a figure, and you hear that people are acting out in your name, you need to take some responsibility in whether you condone such actions, and whether you should have dissuaded people from acting what they thought was in your interest. It can be a lot to ask for to have a person expected to tell others that you don't want them to harass someone, but especially in a scenario around the value of public opinion, suing over the value of defamation, one has to see the responsibility of the fame/name they still hold. Although, I probably don't know enough about this particular case to do much of an informed opinion, and every reasonably famous person is going to have their share of crazies that do something the person would not have agreed with. But every celebrity person, group and anything with a fanbase, needs some level of responsibility for how they may influence their fans, both directly from saying something and indirectly from not doing so. |
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Utsuro no Hako
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He hasn't made any inflammatory comments on Twitter recently, that's true, but: 1) His fanclub has online hangouts other than Twitter. 2) We know he encouraged fans to go on crusade for him when this whole thing started. 3) He's encouraged his fans in their behavior at public appearances. 4) The guy who collects money for his legal fund has encouraged harassment, and his lawyer is on video saying it's right and just to shoot people who do stuff like Marchi and Rial. He is absolutely responsible for the toxicity around this case. |
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Charred Knight
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Has Vic ever encouraged people to send death threats or to directly harass people? Nope
Has Vic ever encouraged people to defend him, and to complain about how mean everyone is to him because his got this reputation as a creepy old man? Yes Has Vic ever thanked his fans for "standing up to him"? Yes Has this youtube lawyer guy Vic endorsed made videos where he explains about how everyone else doesn't understand law including the Judge on the case? Yes So the fans see this and think that what Vic wants them to do is go scream at Jamie Marchi and Monica Rial for ruining Vic's reputation, they want to go scream at the judge because the Judge clearly doesn't understand Texas law as well as this Minnesota lawyer who has never even passed the bar. Then Vic thanks them for all they have done, and see they did a good job. The problem is that Vic's fanbase doesn't want to live in reality. They want to live in the reality where Toei is in love with him because he voiced Broly, and are angry at Funimation for not using Vic, and are at any moment going to pull Dragonball from Funimation and hand the license to Vic where Vic would pay for it with all the money they got from this huge cash settlement that his going to get from this lawsuit because Vic totally had handshake deals. Then Funimation is going to go bankrupt as Vic's new studio takes off. The idea that Toei doesn't really care about who voice acts Broly never enters their mind. The idea that Ty Beard is a crap lawyer who basically was too lazy to get actual evidence, based his entire case on conspiracy theories involving liking tweets, and admitted that he wasn't paying attention never entered their mind. The fact that Nick Rekieta doesn't actually know what his talking about, and is constantly on spin mode, that maybe giving this guy 200,000+ dollars to see it wasted on a comical farce was a bad idea never entered their mind The fact that Vic has constantly made enemies with other people have never entered their mind. The idea that at the end of the day no one really wants to deal with his toxic fanbase has never entered their mind. |
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MarshalBanana
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StarfighterPegasus
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Crispy there is a fine line between offering constructive criticism and just being hateful.
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Aresef
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Something none of Mignogna’s defenders have yet to explain is why, with very few exceptions like Chuck Huber and Reuben Langdon, none of Mignogna’s peers are vouching for him. In fact, where voice actors are speaking up, it’s to side with Rial and Marchi in Calling Mignogna a creep. If this were a conspiracy, well, cui bono?
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StarfighterPegasus
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AiddonValentine
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Pretty much; even though not that many people are vocally critical of Vic, pretty much zero are supportive of him. And considering one of the affidavits a few weeks ago it's not surprising. With Vic's attitude making him a pariah among recording studios it's obvious that would then extend to actors. No one wants his stink on them and no one ESPECIALLY wants to defend a guy who's been repeatedly accused of serial sexual misconduct. |
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JustinTaco
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This is pretty surprising, but in a way not so surprising at the same time. I read all 157 pages of the early September hearing, Chupp has the patience of a saint. Even that sentence is understating it. He practically threw Ty an entire cruise liner's worth of life preservers and came just short of jumping in the water to demonstrate how to grab one. The fact that he's giving them one last chance to salvage a case that's practically dust is pretty in line with his personality.
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Commander Cluck
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I'm going to hazard a guess and say it's the constant death threats and attacks people have been suffering when they've come out in defense of Vic. In addition to the threats on his family, there's already been certain individuals basically bragging how they're no longer going to let Chuck Huber go to any convention they have influence over, basically validating Chuck's fears he'll have a target on him now for speaking out. And many people are already going after another anime VA who owns a live-streaming website Vic uses and threatening him that he better ban Vic from the platform but he refused to do so. Not naming names for their sake, but it's not hard to find out who it is. You defend Vic, you get un-personed just like he was. The best you're going to see is VAs who aren't saying a single thing at all about this situation. Defending Vic is basically saying "Hello, all you people sending death threats out there and have powers to blacklist me from conventions and casting roles, please do just that! Thanks!" |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Two weeks until all this goes away one way or another? Can't wait...(of course, y'all'l have to find something else to do)
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