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NEWS: Judge Rules Vic Mignogna Must Pay US$238,042 to Defendants in Lawsuit

Vaisaga wrote:

Beard's big screw up was that first hearing, but that's supposedly because he went in ready for a TCPA hearing only for Chupp to run it differently. Since then it's mostly been Monica's lawyer getting on Chupp's nerves. And both of them are on record admitting Vic's suit was meritorious and was only defeated because of rules. And I wouldn't expect Vic to get discouraged any time soon. He still gets invited to cons, still pulls in 3 hour lines, and the Go Fund Me keeps growing by the day. He's got no shortage of support.

Lemoine overplayed his hand. He purposely ran up legal fees with tons of useless discovery and concerns like going after YouTuber streamers, subpoenaing people, going after Vic's Go Fund Me, Twitter drama and tons of other stuff which Chupp said had zero relevancy to the case. As a result Rial and Toye are still stuck with almost 200K in legal feels these awarded fees won't cover (assuming Vic's appeal doesn't go through) If Lemoine was smart he'd wave the rest of the bill and call the rest pro bono and hope Rial and Toye don't sue him for taking advantage of them.

Weren't the bulk of the conventions that retained Vic as a guest ones that couldn't dump him for contractual reasons (Kameha Con), run by people who were also facing allegations of sexual harassment (Anime Matsuri), or were conventions that were more Comic Con than Anime Con? December and January are a bit of a dead zone for anime conventions but either way, we'll know at the start of February where things stand for him as a convention guest. That was roughly when things kicked off and he started getting kicked out after all so if he is getting invited to anime cons again, most of them will have said something by then.

Bastille wrote:

Weren't the bulk of the conventions that retained Vic as a guest ones that couldn't dump him for contractual reasons (Kameha Con), run by people who were also facing allegations of sexual harassment (Anime Matsuri), or were conventions that were more Comic Con than Anime Con? December and January are a bit of a dead zone for anime conventions but either way, we'll know at the start of February where things stand for him as a convention guest. That was roughly when things kicked off and he started getting kicked out after all so if he is getting invited to anime cons again, most of them will have said something by then.

People aren't talking about retained conventions though, he's gotten new ones all throughout the year. Although you raise a good point Vic is known for more than just anime, like his Star Trek and other western franchise work so he has more avenues than just anime conventions at his disposal. Anime VAs have shown up at comic conventions plenty of times before so it's not actually something new. A decent chunk of SDCC this year was dedicated to anime and manga.

Personally, I wish people would leave contentions out of this. People trying to attack Vic by saying he's going to a 'small' or 'iffy' conventions don't seem to realize that insulting those conventions insults tons of people. Not just Vic, but the other guests, the attendees, and the convention employees and owners. Sangawa Project 2019 just announced Monica Rial is going to be a guest there next week, and she appears to be the only guest for it. Are we going to make fun of her for taking that small convention appearance? The truth of the matter is anime dubbing does not pay a sustainable wage, and VAs have to take everything available to them. I don't know if it's still true or not, but Monica Rial said in the past she also has to work as a hair dresser because that's what it takes to cover her living expenses. Small conventions likely only have the budget for one or two notable guests, so they go with ones they think will bring the most attendees. So long as the fans are happy, the convention is happy, and the guest is happy and making money, it should not matter which convention they go to. Anime VAs don't have the luxury of being snobs like some people seem to think they do.

If you read the minutes you can see when Judge Chupp bluntly says that either Rial's lawyer is overbilling his client or Marchi's lawyer is underbilling his when he looks at their requested fees and saw such a huge difference in them

If Vic isn't having trouble with convention appearences, why is he suing Monica, Jamie, Ron and Funi in the first place? If he's not having career problems, then this lawsuit was a nasty piece of work on his part, on other people's dime. Seems to me, that Vic is a piece of slime.

o.0 Seriously? We're calling them "small" (because that's what they are), and "iffy" (because they're having a known scumbag as a guest). The former is a statement of fact, not an insult. The latter... well, the latter is a statement of fact as well an intentional insult. And I don't give a rat about the other people - if they feel insulted, they should reconsider their association with a con that would bring in a serial harasser.

Weren't the bulk of the conventions that retained Vic as a guest ones that couldn't dump him for contractual reasons (Kameha Con), run by people who were also facing allegations of sexual harassment (Anime Matsuri), or were conventions that were more Comic Con than Anime Con? December and January are a bit of a dead zone for anime conventions but either way, we'll know at the start of February where things stand for him as a convention guest. That was roughly when things kicked off and he started getting kicked out after all so if he is getting invited to anime cons again, most of them will have said something by then.

Regardless of how you feel about Vic, you have to admit he made a lot of stupid decisions during this shitstorm. The blackface should have been his first clue that he wasn't exactly hiring Johnnie Cochran here.

This is not to say he didn't do anything malicious, but this case has cut off before we could really figure that out. It seemed, for the most part, that there were a lot of stories, some conflicting, notwithstanding, that left people to simply choose with their own mal-adjusted moral compasses whether Migogna did anything actually wrong or not. Unfortunate, I guess we'll never know.

*Vic Demonstrating How He Yanks A Woman's Hair.gif*

*Vic Demonstrating How He Yanks A Woman's Hair.gif*

At any rate, I'm not sure how most of you still have absolute contempt and disdain for Mignogna. He didn't exactly conduct himself poorly throughout the course of the suit.