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Alan45
Village Elder
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@Cam0
I agree. A lot more should be done to prevent this sort of thing ever happening. However, that is before the fact. What we have here is a question of what to do with someone after they have crossed the line. Keep in mind that (at least here in the US) you can't just throw someone in a locked ward and keep them there for thinking bad thoughts. Even if they are delusional or actively psychotic, there are limits if they are not an active threat. You can't even force them to take medication in some cases. I suspect that before the act this person was probably seen as an angry man with obsessions about the publisher. |
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BrainBlow
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The system inevitably executes innocent people and thus guarantees the freedom of the true culprits, all to satisfy bloodlust. It is even less defensible especially in legal systems known for systemic abuse and improper procedure like in Japan. Executing innocents is evil.
It absolutely matters, because you set the legal precedent that the legally insane should be treated just like the sane. That is a horrific idea and would actually stigmatize the mentally ill since we now would consider mental health to be an irrelevant factor to how they are treated and judged. You don't get to give special exemptions based on how much you dislike the individual. |
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AkumaChef
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I have to disagree here. Classifying the arsonist as evil and working to prevent acts like this in the future are not mutually exclusive. What label we slap on the perpetrator has little to do with what other things we can do to address problems like this from happening again. Is the arsonist evil? In my opinion yes. Does that mean that Japan shouldn't re-evaluate its mental health treatment? Absolutely not. Does that mean that fire codes shouldn't be improved? Absolutely not. Does that mean that businesses shouldn't have response plans in place for what to do if they are threatened by a lunatic/evil murderer/burglar/disgruntled employee/etc? Again, absolutely not.
I totally agree with all of that, except for the notion that calling the person evil somehow precludes or excludes mental health treatment.
Ah, yes, the notion of thoughtcrime. How very progressive. Go watch Psycho-Pass. The problem here is false-positives. What happens when you or one of your loved ones is flagged by the system as a crime-waiting-to-happen and you're dragged off for "treatment" or incarceration even though you haven't actually done anything yet. As we all know there is no such thing as an infallible predictor of future behavior. Capital punishment is bad enough (as BrainBlow stated it necessarily involves killing innocents) and that's involving cases after-the-fact. Imagine how much worse the false positives would be when there's no actual evidence of anything because the crime hasn't actually been committed yet. And that's to say nothing about what might happen if people in power decide to manipulate the system for their own personal ends, like eliminating political opponents or business rivals..... |
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Lactobacillus yogurti
Posts: 845 Location: Latin America |
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All I can and will say is that wishing the perp's death puts us at the same level as him. Life in prison might seem like a waste of Japan's money, but it'd be better than stooping down to his level and making him pay for what he did with his life.
An eye for an eye, and the whole world goes blind. |
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v1cious
Posts: 6202 Location: Houston, TX |
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It will be interesting to see if he gets the death penalty. That's not something they throw around lightly.
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yuna49
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Japan has fewer mechanisms for making donations to private companies while avoiding tax liability. One way around these restrictions was to take advantage of a controversial Japanese law that allows monies to be sent tax-free to local municipalities. See https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2019/08/6e90c4d0b3eb-govt-mulls-tax-breaks-for-donations-to-kyoto-animation.html and https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2017/03/11/editorials/review-of-the/ From the Kyodo News article:
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Tempest
I Run this place.
ANN Publisher Posts: 10420 Location: Do not message me for support. |
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It is ironic that Japan spent a lot of money to keep this man alive, when there's a good chance that they're going to put him to death. Obviously having a trial is important, and will help bring closure. Just Ironic... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Japan |
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