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TichoSlicer
Joined: 26 Feb 2017
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:52 pm
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MiloTheFirst wrote: | When the episode begun and i saw the dumb marriage proposal my first reaction was "seriously, this dumb cliche filler nonsense?" So i proceeded to fast forward the episode only to get a huge whiplash when i suddenly saw her already in a bride dress just by the half time mark. I straight up said out loud "excuse you, what?", Lol. Now we are supposed to look forward to next week, when the irritating shounen protagonist MC will teach his fallen into the dark side friend the errors of his way.....
Seriously though, this whole daewi became a cold hearted bastard thing is so dumb. While it is easy to make the case that he was being scummy by specifically aiming for the abdomen laceration he saw her get just the day before, from another angle one could say he was just respecting her as a warrior by taking her that much seriously,. And we were apparently supposed to think his force was excessive and she could have obtain permanent damage... In a show that went out of is way to tell us that their nano machines can even fix a broken neck, in fact, why was she still injured on that fight? This show just keeps shooting itself in the foot |
Respecting her? When in last epi he didn't atk that other guy that fell? Yeah, nops, it was just a dumb plot point for, like u said, the MC teach him a leason next week, and then everybody goes back to be friends like nothing happened hahahaha ¬¬
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Izanagi009
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:55 pm
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I'll be entirely honest,
I'm not sure what the horrid issue is that would result in public opinion turning so badly. Oh sure, i totally understand that the wedding and Mira's backstory was rushed. I get that Mori's behavior can be grating. But I somehow saw this as the relative calm before the storm, supported by the classic good man gone bad that Daewi is going through. That and I also thought some sort of setup but that partially is based of stuff i read online for spoilers so i won't deal with that.
The way I saw this though, the wedding is a relatively minor event in the grand scheme of things but somewhat important due to the bouken being taken. So they decided to get the main points of the story: Mira's motivation and Daewi's turn out as fast as possible.
I can understand why the pacing issue is a thing but I just saw a purely functional episode. It wasn't as god awful as some of the stuff in Cross Ange or Shield Hero where i could tear it's meta-textual ass apart; I could do that with Mori, Daewi and Mira but they seem so stock shonen for both accurate if disparaging classification that i really can't bring myself to read meta-texual.
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#844391
Joined: 09 Sep 2015
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:01 pm
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I should point out that episode 4 was actually an arc in the source material, and is generally considered the worst arc in the series, so stuffing it all into one messy episode is probably a good thing overall (strongly doubt anyone would want several episodes dedicated to it). Would also be a bit difficult to just skip it since it did have some consequences such as Mira getting slashed and her sword being stolen.
Also, if you think the story is too wacky for you now, then you should probably just leave, because this part is probably the most grounded in reality the series will ever be.
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Izanagi009
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:05 pm
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#844391 wrote: | I should point out that episode 4 was actually an arc in the source material, and is generally considered the worst arc in the series, so stuffing it all into one messy episode is probably a good thing overall (strongly doubt anyone would want several episodes dedicated to it). Would also be a bit difficult to just skip it since it did have some consequences such as Mira getting slashed and her sword being stolen.
Also, if you think the story is too wacky for you now, then you should probably just leave, because this part is probably the most grounded in reality the series will ever be. |
Yeah this last statement is probably true given that we are nearing the final of the tournament in episode 5 or 6. Which means the plot is going to expand and having read spoilers, it sort of goes out there
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Ryuji-Dono
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:23 pm
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So...do we know how many episodes this show will have?
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Minos_Kurumada
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:42 am
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I didn't mind the phase, my problem it's the plot holes:
-¿Why is Mira's dojo not full of students wanting to learn the style of one of the top 4 fighters on this super popular tournament?
-¿Why is she fighting in a sailor fuku instead of the uniform of her dojo for extra publicity if she cares so much about reviving the business?
-¿Why is she still cut the next day? ¿What happened to the nanomachines?
-¿Why doesn't she have a sword the next day? ¿Couldn't she pick a shinai from the dojo?
-This guy is supposed to be super important and famous... ¿Couldn't they simply go and fill a theft report to the police to get the sword back? Imaginate the PR disaster if it's known this CEO is a petty thief.
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doubleO7
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:45 am
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Ryuji-Dono wrote: | So...do we know how many episodes this show will have? |
I’m pretty sure it’s been confirmed to be a single, 13 episode cour just like Tower if God.
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Ryuji-Dono
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:41 am
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doubleO7 wrote: |
Ryuji-Dono wrote: | So...do we know how many episodes this show will have? |
I’m pretty sure it’s been confirmed to be a single, 13 episode cour just like Tower if God. |
So, some time left to fulfill the first arc and maybe the prologue of the 2nd from what I heard. I don't know if I could watch this episode but I may continue with the rest if they work fine. (Heard that the wedding arc in the manhwa was also equally badly written, so whether they made it longer or so wouldn't have made much of a difference.)
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Kecake
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:44 am
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Im guessing most of you haven't read the manhwa. If you did then you shouldve probably realized this manhwa is focused on the fights and the idea why this manhwa is addicting. We only wanted it to be animated not given some dressing on the story. For the newcomers, WE FEEL YOU ALL SO DONT EXPECT TOO MUCH ON DRAMATIC OR EXTRAORDINARY PLOTS. You'll understand once they get to 2nd or 3rd arc, but till then appreciate the effort of the studio. Plus author san has gotten these critics way back in the early days of the manhwa. To sum it up its for the fight scene addicted viewrs
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Yuvelir
Joined: 06 Jan 2015
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:02 am
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Kecake wrote: | Im guessing most of you haven't read the manhwa. If you did then you shouldve probably realized this manhwa is focused on the fights and the idea why this manhwa is addicting. We only wanted it to be animated not given some dressing on the story. For the newcomers, WE FEEL YOU ALL SO DONT EXPECT TOO MUCH ON DRAMATIC OR EXTRAORDINARY PLOTS. You'll understand once they get to 2nd or 3rd arc, but till then appreciate the effort of the studio. Plus author san has gotten these critics way back in the early days of the manhwa. To sum it up its for the fight scene addicted viewrs |
Well, where were those fight scenes then? Just don't invest so much time into something you're actively terrible at while sidelining what you CAN do well. And I know it wasn't the worst part but god, I'm still annoyed by the sword thing, that was so braincell-devoid in so many ways.
And that's just how adaptations work. If you did something well, you'll get praised twice, and if you do something dumb you'll get called out twice. I don't see why us anime watchers should refrain from criticizing the very bad stuff.
Although there's something for the director too. I bet there were much better ways to conclude this episode than going for that guy's instant downfall and the dumb girl's beatdown - specially since otherwise the rest of the episode was about her, not him.
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Ryuji-Dono
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:56 am
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Yuvelir wrote: |
Kecake wrote: | Im guessing most of you haven't read the manhwa. If you did then you shouldve probably realized this manhwa is focused on the fights and the idea why this manhwa is addicting. We only wanted it to be animated not given some dressing on the story. For the newcomers, WE FEEL YOU ALL SO DONT EXPECT TOO MUCH ON DRAMATIC OR EXTRAORDINARY PLOTS. You'll understand once they get to 2nd or 3rd arc, but till then appreciate the effort of the studio. Plus author san has gotten these critics way back in the early days of the manhwa. To sum it up its for the fight scene addicted viewrs |
Well, where were those fight scenes then? Just don't invest so much time into something you're actively terrible at while sidelining what you CAN do well. And I know it wasn't the worst part but god, I'm still annoyed by the sword thing, that was so braincell-devoid in so many ways.
And that's just how adaptations work. If you did something well, you'll get praised twice, and if you do something dumb you'll get called out twice. I don't see why us anime watchers should refrain from criticizing the very bad stuff.
Although there's something for the director too. I bet there were much better ways to conclude this episode than going for that guy's instant downfall and the dumb girl's beatdown - specially since otherwise the rest of the episode was about her, not him. |
That's fair, but at the same time, one must not quit for something they haven't seen the rest of it just because of one bad episode so far. One must have patience to watch the rest of the series to give proper judgment because quitting early just reeks of impatience and having demanding standards.
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Yuvelir
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:43 am
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Ryuji-Dono wrote: | That's fair, but at the same time, one must not quit for something they haven't seen the rest of it just because of one bad episode so far. One must have patience to watch the rest of the series to give proper judgment because quitting early just reeks of impatience and having demanding standards. |
Or not having infinite time.
Thanks to reading comments here I know better, but otherwise the series was already treading on thin ice with good battle animation being its only remarkable feature, so seeing it throw that away didn't paint a good picture.
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meiam
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:21 am
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Ryuji-Dono wrote: |
That's fair, but at the same time, one must not quit for something they haven't seen the rest of it just because of one bad episode so far. One must have patience to watch the rest of the series to give proper judgment because quitting early just reeks of impatience and having demanding standards. |
I mean, if literally everyone think this part of the story suck, they could have just cut it and actually focus on the fight (either just refer to it or remove it completely). Like you said, the anime only watcher don't know about this, so its not like they'd think something is missing. And I agree that the fight are pretty much the only good part, but the show doesn't seem to think so. I'd say about only a third of the run time pre episode 4 was dedicated to fight. Like dragon ball was getting a lot of crap for spending an entire episode on dude yelling at each others while fighting, but I don't think anyone ever said "man I wish they'd spend most of an episode on Vegeta and Bulma getting married out of nowhere rather than this pointless fight between Cell and Goku". Considering we haven't even seen half of the tournament fight, it would have been pretty easy to find content.
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yeehaw
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:35 pm
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He aimed for the wound on her belly, the sick bastard
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One-Eye
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:00 pm
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They should just have had a standard cliche beach episode and ended with the beat down. It would have been far more entertaining than the marriage drek that was served up. The show is supposed to be dumb beat em up shonen fun, when it tries to be anything else it becomes bad. I'm seriously questioning if I want to waste any more time on it...I may give it one more episode...maybe.
Yuvelir wrote: | And that's just how adaptations work. If you did something well, you'll get praised twice, and if you do something dumb you'll get called out twice. I don't see why us anime watchers should refrain from criticizing the very bad stuff. |
Agreed.
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