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tywhoppity
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The biigest problem I had with ep 18 is a court of law let a kid brandish a knife in order to "extract his pound of flesh", and that Baxter was a enough of a noodle to fall down and let him threaten him so. Sorry, that's just too much of a stretch, even for this show.
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Blood-
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Episode 18 with its whole pound of flesh crap doesn't just require you suspend your disbelief... you actually have to pack it into a rocket ship and fire it into the deepest reaches of space. So incredibly dumb.
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Hurricane Butterfly
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Lol, have you ever watched any other anime besides this one? 
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Yuvelir
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Maybe it's because I have no awareness for how much 600 pounds are worth, but amassing a tiny fortune doesn't seem that unlikely considering that part of his advisory jobs involve planning heists. I also wouldn't be surprised if swindling and counterfeits were involved.
As for carrying knives, were they explicitly forbidden and customary searches done at the time? |
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JadeDahlia
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Yeah my first thought was also "If he has that much money, why doesn't he just give it to the orphanage?". I get that he wanted to get revenge on the guy who scammed them, but he still could have at least split the money between the scammer and the orphanage.
And his plan is absolutely wild. Like, can you imagine a kid in court in this day and age pulling a knife on the other guy, in front of the judge, and the court just rolling with it? I don't know much about how courts worked in the Victorian era, but even then I doubt he could get away with that. I think the suspension of disbelief comments are valid. Like yeah, there's been more absurd stuff in other anime, but for the kind of show this is, it's definitely a stretch to expect us to just be like "yeah sure this could totally happen". |
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Hurricane Butterfly
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I'm not saying that they aren't valid, but, according to comments that I read online here and there (not specifically regarding this series) seems that some people never watched anime before. And they don't even know how the animanga market works: Yuukoku no Moriarty is a shounen manga, serialized on a Jump magazine: don't expect any realism from it. But bashing some manga/anime for this reason is as nonsensical as hating *insert a very famous series' title* just because is popular, or hating an author just because they kill someone's favorite character or screw someone's OTP. Realism has always been an optional in anime and manga and still is, and let's not forget that this is very loosely based on a novel; a non-biographical novel about fictional characters. A genius detective vs a genius evil professor and various other enemies... Surely more believable than Moriarty the Patriot, but is it realistic? I don't think so.
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blahmoomoo
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He did split the money, by loaning 600 pounds and taking 300 back to repay the orphanage loan. So the orphans weren't starving while waiting for the 600 pound loan to default. Though I totally agree that gathering that money and having the knife in the courtroom was way more unbelievable than usual. |
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JadeDahlia
Posts: 70 Location: New York, NY |
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Ah okay, I misunderstood then. When he said '300 plus another 300', I thought he was still giving it all to him, but if that's the case then good.
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Gina Szanboti
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His best course of action would've been to give the orphanage £300, keep the rest, and go torch the guy's mansion for revenge.
 He probably at least arranged to have his ship sunk.
I kinda got the impression that, while we were seeing this as though it were true, at least the main part of it was really Milverton's actively imaginative interpretation of what he read in a file, and that the court case never actually happened. Either that or it's Moriarty's memory and his fantasy of what he put in the file. It's the only way I can make sense of it. A sensational case like that and the spectacular outcome for the orphanage would have been reported in the local newspapers, and Milverton's main gig is owning lots of newspapers, like a Victorian Rupert Murdoch. Newspapers have morgues. For that matter, people have memories. If this had happened, Moriarty would have had to purge every other report of it, and somehow erase its impact on the social and legal worlds, which I think is beyond even him. I suppose knowing what the writers intended lies in what "that court record that you left to be found" really means. Does it mean the only record he left remaining, or a record he himself left, i.e., planted (is the Japanese as ambiguous?)? At least the latter would require a lot less covert legwork and lie within the realm of possibility...for some value of "possible." |
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ab2143
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I noticed the Mr. Simms grocery store at the beginning of the episode. In the UK, they’re actually a chain retailer specialising in traditional sweets. I can’t believe the anime used their logo lmao.
Then again, Mr. Simms shops are made to look like a Victorian-era store... |
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Gina Szanboti
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The suicide article ran in The Dairy Londner, the sister publication of The Dairy Londoner. With an aptly Murdochian headline to boot.
 Btw, his name is apparently Whiteley, which bugs me no end, since I expect it to be Whitely too. Surprisingly, this site's spellcheck seems to agree with the anime. oO
I hope Moriarty is his usual step ahead and has Moran watching out for Tiny |
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BBally
Posts: 84 Location: UK |
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I noticed the Moriarty the Patriot anime skipped one of my favorite chapters, The Adventure of the One Student, which is a shame as it was the only story where William and Sherlock got freely interact and had some of my favorite interactions between the two.
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Yuvelir
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Of course Whiteley's morality is pure white.
Maybe not entire recipe books, but handing out recipes with some generic ingredient replaced by the specific brand is still a very common practice... |
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Princess_Irene
ANN Reviewer
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Right, but that's typically on the box or under the label. I'm specifically talking about full recipe booklets, running to fifteen-to-twenty pages or more. You do see them now occasionally (I have a couple of cookie cookbooks put out by Land-o-Lakes Butter, both from the 1990s), but the trend is largely gone. (Or moved online to brand-specific websites. I haven't checked that.) |
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Yuvelir
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I'll admit they were rare in my infancy, the most common were recipe books (about 5~15 recipes each) being bundled with newspapers or magazines and being sponsored by food labels. And a couple were just left in the mailbox. You can indeed see them online nowadays with some frequency; social media, QR codes and sponsored URLs make it easy (and cheap!) to share those "books". And it just makes sense, cook books are a traditional and direct way of telling "look at all the cool stuff you can do with our product". Of course this is from the perspective of my country, so experiences might vary. |
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