Forum - View topicNEWS: CLAMP's Tokyo Babylon 2021 TV Anime Unveils Cast, Staff, New Video, April Debut
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MFrontier
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The seiyu seem well-cast but the designs look a little less...cutesy, than I remember.
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Suxinn
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Uh, yeahhhh, really not looking forward to this. Even putting aside the art, I've found, from what I've watched from GoHands (K and Coppelion, specifically), that GoHands is very, very bad at pacing a story properly. Like, so phenomenally bad that I wonder if they're doing it on purpose. Add their weird lens filters and terrible camera angles, and you get some Really Bad Anime. The only way my expectations for this show could be any lower would be if Lerche was doing it.
So I'm just going to... pretend this adaptation doesn't exist. Yeah. Taking the willful ignorance route to preserve my good memories of this series. Well, at least we're getting a new Nana song from all this, is all I can say. |
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Fenrin
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GoRA did the writing for K, that's why the story was pretty decent and coherent. They were pretty much the best thing to happen to GoHands as they made such a good team, I'm eternally disappointed they didn't continue GoRAxGoHands past the K franchise. Also why do these companies always feel the need to modernize older titles by bringing them to the present (Banana Fish and Fruits Basket come to mind)? Why can't they let us bask in the nostalgia? lol |
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SHD
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That's just sloppy translation - here "mech" doesn't mean mecha (as in giant robots and whatnot) but all sorts of mechanics, like vehicles, gadgets, etc.
I don't know, but it pretty much ruined Banana Fish as far as I'm concerned. It's not even the nostalgia factor, it's that Banana Fish is so deeply entrenched in its era that taking it out from there just didn't work. Like, yes, technically you can remake Apocalypse Now and set it in Afghanistan or whatever, but it won't work. I don't really mind it in this case (or in case of Fruits Basket), though. Or in the upcoming Night Head 2041, which I'm so incredibly excited about that nothing can ruin the hype for me at this point (unless they cast Aoi Shouta, Miyano Mamoru or Sugita Tomokazu, I guess). Last edited by SHD on Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:27 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Oggers
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While I do think modernizing Banana Fish hurt the anime adaptation a bit (even though I still enjoyed it for the most part), I don't think it really affected Fruits Basket much. Aside from seeing characters occasionally use smartphones and newer TVs, you can hardly tell the setting was changed. And Fruits Basket is such a timeless story that you could arguably set it in any decade and it would still work. In regards to this preview, though...I'm very unsure about it. Hand Shakers scarred me even though I've only seen clips of that series, so I've become wary of anything GoHands makes since then. |
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ojamajolilac
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It's King Amusement Creative, the cast will be full of King Records artists. Expect Horie Yui, Minase Iori and maybe Ogura Yui and Miyano Mamoru in supporting roles. I like Aoi Shota as an idol, but he seems to be shoved into roles he is not suited for. They really should have just got Uchida Yuuma instead, he's in King Records, and is a capable seiyuu. I believe Aoi Shota started in music first before doing voice acting. Mizuki Nana is a very competent, experienced seiyuu. She can pretty much do a good job with most roles you expect a female seiyuu to do. Umehara sounds pretty good in the trailer I think, he tends to get pigeon holed into more emotionless roles. Off topic. This starts in January, assuming ending in April. Nana is currently pregnant (she's probably around 4 months pregnant at the time of writing). Intrigued that she took a major role around this time. |
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SHD
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He started out as an idol hopeful, then when that didn't work out he tried the "idol seiyuu" route, taking roles in otome games with character songs attached, anime where singing is involved, and then anime where he may not sing in-character (although he'll likely do the opening or ending song) but his character is expected to get popular. He's been having quite a strong agency push in these past years, and as his popularity grows he's starting to get roles simply to pull in a certain type of audience: his fans, or people who belong to the demographics of his fandom. (In this case, this is an anime that is likely to appeal to that demographic, except that's the one group where it doesn't really have any hype, since the manga concluded before most of them were even born. So Aoi is cast as to pull them in.) The problem is that while he's good at singing, he's just not any good as an actor, period, and I'm really bummed that he's going to get such an iconic role when there are so many, much more talented seiyuu, who would've been an infinitely better fit. (Not to mention, stunt casting like this can go so terribly wrong, see LoGH:DNT with Miyano Mamoru as Reinhard and Umehara Yuuichirou as Kircheis, it was just painful all around.)
Umehara I think is a very good seiyuu, and I think he's really good at subdued deliveries. He does get pigeonholed unfortunately, then again, his voice quality tends not to work with certain character types (see: Kircheis). I think he'll be fine as Seishirou, though I would've preferred someone like Nakamura Yuuichi... (Any opportunity for Nakamura to flex his "smooth ikemen" voice is one that should be taken.) |
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ojamajolilac
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I agree with you. Some series/franchise are better off casting those with charisma on stage. Some series are better off casting competent seiyuus. I'm not really sure whether stunt casting is worth it here. Seiyuus can only sell the show so much, if the series does not match the general taste of the seiyuu's fans, it's quite pointless. My impression of Aoi Shota fans are teenage girls (including my own cousin)...and this is a classic CLAMP series 30 years ago.
Umehara is an interesting male seiyuu case. Multiple seiyuus have mentioned how 'ikemen' he is (can't disagree), but he is not into having an idol career. He has some fans, but probably not enough to pull them in as part of a stunt casting. He's definitely being casted more for his skills/voice these days, compared to earlier in his career, he's been playing major roles in series that are not likely to pull in viewers that is into his ikemen-Ness. It'll be interesting to see the rest of the cast, then we will know whether stunt casting is at play here. A part of me wants to hear Nakamura flexing his ikemen voice. But at the same time I've heard it so many times, I'm quite happy to hear younger seiyuus. |
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MFrontier
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This is probably a silly thing to think about when this is probably a standalone adaption, but doesn't this mean they have to update X's time period as well? Can't really set the end of the world at 1999 anymore if a story that's set before it is in 2020. |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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SHD
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To me it seems Umehara was among those seiyuu who were intended to become idols eventually, getting pretty boy roles where he had to sing as well as appear on stage a lot, but then he kind of stayed on the acting side? heh. Not that I'm disappointed, I think he's very talented. Similarly, Takeuchi Shunsuke is another seiyuu who seems to be heading in a funny direction, intentionally or not - ikemen, voice like chocolate honey fudge, great singer, whole lot of 2D idol/otome game roles... but in anime as time goes on he keeps getting "the big dude/muscle for brain" roles, most recently Brawler in Akudama Drive. (I guess casting people are happy they found someone with this particular voice quality...)
Haha, true. I'm just a sucker for Nakamura. And though he's far from being unknown, I think he really should be getting more recognition...
Yeah but nobody is saying that they shouldn't try to appeal to a young demographics? I'm just worried that they're sacrificing a good performance for a truly iconic character, for the sake of stunt casting, especially as there are a number of young and popular seiyuu who would be really good in the role. Like, the BTS guys are certainly incredibly popular, and sure, tons of people would turn out to watch a Seven Samurai adaptation featuring them in the main roles, but that wouldn't mean their performances in the iconic roles would be any good whatsoever... |
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