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Doodleboy
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I think one of the reasons that Reiner's mother freaks out at what Reiner is saying is because the Warrior candidates in particular are closely monitored, so if he gets caught saying too much they might all be turned into titans and thrown off a zeppelin. That seems to be why they had the short scene of the window opening and her closing it, to keep out prying eyes.
The way the Eldians live is through manufactured consent, they agree to all this because they have to. And there's a quiet violence to this. We've already seen this contradiction break Reiner, we see an Eldian commit suicide by jumping off a roof presumably because of this. I think that's another reason for the tracking shots, the horror direction, the lack of music. There is supposed to be a tension even in the more relatively peaceful scenes. Marley and the world is teetering on a war with Paradis Island. And if all-out war starts, no matter who wins it won't bode well. |
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Minos_Kurumada
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I actually don't hate Gaby, it's beyond obvious that the writer wants us to hate her and I don't like being manipulated by a writer.
Anyways, what I can say is that MAPPA is following the Manga's art style closer, they use those lines on the characters faces that Isayama loves to use for expression that the previous Anime used but not to such degree. I was also wondering if they were gonna fuse all of Reiner's flashbacks in one sole episode and, yeah, they will. They are also using 2 Manga chapters per episode, which it's the perfect phase for a monthly manga. |
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Everlasting Coconut
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Yeah, I agree. The different framing was a nice change. It better highlights Reiner's "dual" personality, which we first saw back in season 2. Like, when watching scenes like the one in the train, I can totally believe that Reiner's being serious about his threat, but at the same time I can believe he's trying to scare Falco on purpose to protect him, to make sure that he's careful about saying stuff that Marley could consider treacherous.
Aah, Gabi. A literal kid who has been brainwashed by fascist propaganda and has been turned into a child soldier but who still remains carefree and cheerful and kind and who only wants to do what she believes is best for her friends, family, and people. Isayama truly wants us to hate this character 
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Minos_Kurumada
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This is an interesting discussion I would like to have, unfortunately, I would need to use spoilers and I don't think doing it with somebody with such condescending tone would be worth the hassle. I will admit I was wrong and you are right if that saves me from further discussion with you if you wish though. |
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Sisyphusson66
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The OP is really growing on me, and it is good to see Reiner develop into one of the most compelling characters at the moment.
This episode and arc just scream WWII and Cold War influences, for better and worse. The Eldians are very much under a life of brainwashing and terror. Reiner knows this, but being the only character in the current cast that has experience on the island and has witnessed the reality of the islanders, he must constantly toe the line of self-censorship and blind loyalty. He no longer has that split personality from prior seasons, as they have melded together. Now he can only look on his past and see the horror of it all, but with little he can actually do about it. Honestly, other than how blatantly it wears its real world influences on its sleeve, this arc is, so far, rather refreshing for Attack on Titan. MAPPA is doing a good job, but I wish they would stop trying as hard as they are. For some reason, it feels like they are trying to be as fancy and technical as they can be with the animation and camera work, and it just leaves me jarred. From my view, it seems like they are trying to add intricate character movement (like in the latter two seasons of SNAFU) to an equally active camera. The problem is that they get in the way of each other. Case in point the scene with Reiner as it reveals Galliard sitting at a desk. Too much unnecessary movement. |
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Everlasting Coconut
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It wouldn't be interesting nor would it be worth the hassle. The Gabi hate discussions got old years ago, and manga readers need to learn how to talk about the present moment without talking about how it's connected to the future. |
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maximilianjenus
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is the surprise too 9bvious to anime only watchers or am i being too informed?
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KaidoYuji8Shinji
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I knew immediately. |
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Doodleboy
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The adaptation is continuing to make choices on tone. Most of the direction leans on horror and rising tension. Playing the main battle-music during the flashback for instance.
Not sure if it was intentional but the Colossal Titan sequence reminded me of the Seven Days Fire sequence from Nausicaa. Guess it's fitting since they're really going hard on the Titans = Nukes thing. I guess there can be a debate on how well that metaphor works in the story in a story already full of extremely charged metaphors. The adaptation of these chapters is pretty ruthless in what it leaves on the cutting room floor. I guess they have to be to fit this into two cours. Most of what was lost is mostly plotty-stuff, going into detail of why the Warrior trio did what they did. I don't think anything that got cut was really essential to understand the story but it would've been nice if they kept it in. The animation with Annie's fight with Reiner was really good. Looking at Wit's reused animations was a tad jarring with Mappa's stuff. I remember way back Jacob Chapman talked about EMA and RBA being parallels to each other. They both represent the Will/Body/Mind. Mikasa is the body being the strongest fighter, Armin being the mind making the plans needed to secure victory, and Eren being the will pushing the other two forward. Separately they're much weaker than the the three of them working together. If the Warrior trio is a parallel to the Soldier trio, I imagine they're defective versions of EMA. Bertholdt being the body and the most destructive titan, but he's only capable of bursts of widespread destruction unable to transform with his allies near him. Annie would be the mind, good at reading the situation but that means she is too smart to fall for propaganda and sees any cause in the most cynical light possible. And Reiner is the most obvious parallel to Eren, being the will. His determination leaving his mind and spirit broken. I imagine Reiner saw a lot of himself in Eren, both normal people who are incredibly driven by the desire to exterminate every single titan and save humanity. |
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consignia
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To be fair, even as a manga reader, I think the last arc in general could do with a nip and tuck here and there. There's a bit of flab in the last few chapters in particular which could easily moved into higher paced thing. I've always preferred the anime adaptation of this, and I hope this continues into the final season, even with the staff. So far I've liked the emphasis on tone. |
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Everlasting Coconut
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Episode 3:
As was mentioned above, lots of stuff was cut in this one. For the most part they made the right choices and kept only what was essential, but I'd be lying if I said the episode didn't feel rushed in terms of pacing. If I could make one change, I would've liked if they had actually shown kid Reiner failing every single Marleyan test, cause Galliard accusing him of being the worst candidate right off the bat felt like it came out of nowhere. To me, seeing kid Reiner struggling to become a Warrior was what made the terrible things that happened after hit all the more hard. Anyway, my favourite parts were the way they adapted the titans' introduction scene and, of course, spoiler[hobo Eren's speech right at the end. Our MC is finally back.] Last edited by Everlasting Coconut on Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:22 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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KaidoYuji8Shinji
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Ok so it was rushed. I had that feeling when I watched it. It was kind of “choppy”. And some stuff didn’t make sense. Overall a good episode but it came off a little rough.
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lossthief
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So I'm kind of face-blind with this show but I believe that was Annie in disguise - she mentions in the scene afterwards that she's been combing the underground for intel - and I assume she was going after Kenny since he's a member of the Military Police that Annie would eventually infiltrate. The "papa" thing was a ruse to explain why she was tailing him and it failed because Kenny is apparently VolCel. |
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Zhou-BR
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You're right, and what's interesting is that the anime made a slight change to Kenny's line after Annie falsely accuses him of being her father. In the anime, he mentions the promise he made his sister (to raise her kid Levi), which I suppose explains why he avoided becoming a father.
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Nordhmmer
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The anime's 3rd season should've already strongly implied what happened to Ymir. |
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