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jesusalcala11
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And octopodpie clarified further by stating that the guidelines were created in anticipation of the art contest but the document did not limit itself to only that art contest. Khara clarified that they won't be cracking down on the community but warns that artists will continue their activities at their own risk. Last edited by jesusalcala11 on Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:48 am; edited 1 time in total |
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AiddonValentine
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Because this has nothing to do with an art contest, it's a blanket set of guidelines for fan artists as a whole which is why it's such a problem. It's trying to police the fandom. |
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DRosencraft
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"Yeah, how dare someone who created their own story and set of characters, or otherwise has responsibility for that creation, ask people to respect their wishes on the representation of their work. What's wrong with them?" /sarcasm
I don't even know what else to say here. Some fans seem to have an inflated sense of entitlement to the work and creation of others. |
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Generations
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Because that's a gross overgeneralization of how everything works. |
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samuelp
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To me, I don't think it's possible to ignore the context for this particular situation:
If this were some brand new anime or tv show, no one is really going to care all that much. Heck, Ghibli has had this policy for decades about pornagraphic doujin of their works and people have always respected/accepted that for the most part. There are definitely differences between studios and rights holders about how much/how little power they attempt to exert over fanart of their works. The reason why THIS is a news story is because Khara is coming out 25 years later and attempting to stuff the cat back in the bag. Or more like, round up every stray cat in Japan and stuff it in a bag... To me, I look at it similar to trademark law: You can trademark a brand, but if you don't actively attempt to inforce the trademark for too long a period, you lose it. An artist's control over their own work and how it is used by others is practically similar. You could make a moral argument that a creator should always have the right to "change their mind" about these sorts of things, no matter how much time has passed, but the impractical nature of it just makes it more and more head-scratching to me. |
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Wyvern
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Oh darn, now people will just have to make do with the thousands upon thousands of Rei hentai doujins produced over the last quarter century.
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Spooky Blades
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maximilianjenus
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the worse part is that they come up as hipocritical, as most anime workers, mangaka, etc als did the whole doujinshi thing when they started( and a lot still do) its like boomers socializing pensions for their generation, then privatizing it for the next ones.
about ghibli, well he is an asshole who wants to be out of the anime sphere and just wants to be japans disney so its a pretty different thing for him. |
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Gasero
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I can't tell from the general sentiment of the post.
Is their gripe mostly with people who profit off of copyrighted characters or do they just not want to see the characters drawn that way ever again? Someone's random tumblr art is not a big deal to me, but when someone is drawing commissions and making a profit off of copyrighted characters in a way that the copyright owner does not want, that is a big issue. |
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ScruffyKiwi
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Because it is? And yes if you create fanart of goku and post it online you are breaking the law. You do not have to make money. Japanese companies are alot more tolerant than american ones. Try doing fanart of a certain mouse and see how that goes! |
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Blanchimont
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If one cares to look, there's a healthy amount of hentai of that 'certain mouse'... Of course Japanese companies are more tolerant here, fanart/doujinshi culture has been the industry's cornerstone ever since birth of Gundam and the very place that fosters new talent for it... |
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CatSword
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South Park literally had Mickey Mouse getting high and driving around Randy to have sex with a bat and a pangolin this season. |
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jesusalcala11
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In the US, the fair use clause protects parody, criticism, news, and educational use of copyrighted material. In this example, Mickey was used as a stand-in for Disney and their submission to the Chinese government. Japan does not have fair use for parody. Mr. Osomatsu removed their first episode from streaming websites and completely reanimated the first episode for home release. The first episode parodied shows including Attack on Titan and Sailor Moon. Drawing someone else's character in your fanfiction is not fair use. However, as I stated before, most companies don't prosecute fan creations because they are not seen as harmful. For a ruthless Japanese company, look towards Nintendo. Nintendo will prevent the distribution of fan games. Nintendo will shut down tournaments. Nintendo will shut down charities. |
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mdo7
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Whoa, I wasn't active on ANN in 2015 when you linked the article. But I didn't know the first episode of Mr. Osomatsu had to be re-done because the episode contain bunch of parody and reference to other anime that would be considered copyright infringement in Japan. I have to ask, how does an anime able to do parody of other anime "A" without facing copyright infringement lawsuit from the Anime "A"'s companies/production committee. I mean Excel Saga does a lot of parody of anime, and the people that created the Excel Saga anime never faced any copyright infringement lawsuit. I mean how many time one anime parody/poke fun at another anime and ended up faced a copyright infringement lawsuit? I mean if this is the case, then any future anime(s) are not even allowed to make a obvious reference to another anime or a popular anime. |
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Ashen Phoenix
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To me, the thing that seems to be angering so many folks is the hypocrisy of Khara's sudden guidelines.
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