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EP. REVIEW: That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime Season 2

The answer to that is, as someone else said: yes. Like I pointed out earlier: when you're a soldier -- I.E. a part of the lowest rung of a fighting force -- you are expected to follow orders regardless of what you might feel about them personally. It's not really difficult to find nazi ideology reprehensible given that it was built on a core "value" of major racism, but the soldiers themselves were merely tools to be used to fight, and you can't really know for sure how much each of them knew about what was really going on until they were all knee-deep into it. It also bears mentioning that part of the reason the Nazi group had such an easy time recruiting people to their cause were the rather severe situation of powerty Germany found themselves in after World War 1 -- whom Germany had "better cause" to enter, as far as one can say such a thing about a decision to go into war -- when the victor nations saw fit to basically crush them into nearly oblivion with reparations and whatnot.

True, but usually the tragic figures either don't sacrifice villains, but like, whole cities full of innocent people, or like Monte Christo or Kill Bill's Bride have revenge without regaining what's lost. If gang of ten criminals killed someone's loved one and the grieving protagonist got an offer "kill all ten of them and your loved one will be resurrected", most people hearing such story would be either "I'd do the same" or "I wouldn't do that, but I can't really condemn that guy". This is the same, but scaled up.
I proposed it once, but imagine similar but time-reversed situation: Large enemy army boarded ships to rape and murder defenseless port, but you can attack them while they're on the sea, maybe with krakens or storms or something. If you know you won't be able to stop them after your one attack, and even tenth of the army could easily overpower and destroy the population of port, would it really be immoral to try to slaughter all enemies, even if they beg for mercy on their ships?

That's easy to say, but there is very little sympathy for soldiers who guarded camps.

ranran-001 wrote:

That's easy to say, but there is very little sympathy for soldiers who guarded camps.

Well... no, I don't necessarily disagree with that, but that's kind of missing the point.

His friends should be thankful that becoming a demon lord in this world doesn’t involve behelits.

Northlander wrote:

ranran-001 wrote: That's easy to say, but there is very little sympathy for soldiers who guarded camps. Well... no, I don't necessarily disagree with that, but that's kind of missing the point.

At the end of the day, 20k soldiers came with the intentions to ransack the Tempest nation and leave no one alive. Tempest at the time had over 200k civilians. Following orders doesn't cut it when it comes to committing a genocide.

Honestly, I just think it's bad writing that the series had to go to the extreme of portraying Falmuth and the church as irredeemably evil just so it could have Rimuru brutally slaughter all of them without any of the weight that would normally accompany such an act

everydaygamer wrote:

Honestly, I just think it's bad writing that the series had to go to the extreme of portraying Falmuth and the church as irredeemably evil just so it could have Rimuru brutally slaughter all of them without any of the weight that would normally accompany such an act

There are plenty of similar examples in today's world, that such portrayals would be realistic.

You can't take what would normally be a complex problem (killing 10,000 people to obtain more power and restore the dead) then serve up the perfect solution on a silver platter.

Rimuru's world has magic, demon lords, and catastrophic level monsters. So killing anyone or everyone and bringing back the dead is not that complex.

Even then I'm not really talking about the act of bringing back the dead as much of the cost of human life that would normally require a certain amount of thought before a character like Rimuru would go through with it that they wound up completely bypassing with the evil army that allowed for guilt-free killing.

Out've curiosity, Tars, what would be an example of something Slime could do that you would agree is an example of poor writing?

a_Bear_in_Bearcave wrote:

I proposed it once, but imagine similar but time-reversed situation: Large enemy army boarded ships to rape and murder defenseless port, but you can attack them while they're on the sea, maybe with krakens or storms or something. If you know you won't be able to stop them after your one attack, and even tenth of the army could easily overpower and destroy the population of port, would it really be immoral to try to slaughter all enemies, even if they beg for mercy on their ships?

Yes, it would be immoral. Killing bad people =/= doing a good deed.

What your proposing is called the trolley problem, and the criticism of both your example and that problem is that it implies that you only have one of two extreme choices both of which have fixed outcomes. The trolley problem paints a very straightforward cause-effect view of life, but life is chaotic and unpredictable. How do you know what their intent is? How do you know that you can't stop them after one attack? Or that they won't retreat if they beg for mercy? Or that they're incapable of change.

Ultimately, I think the issue with your example, the trolley problem, and (perhaps) this show is that people don't want to feel bad about killing in defense (self or for others) and so we come up with justifications for why they had to or why they shouldn't feel guilty about it.

..the whole resurrection thing...If we had that in real world, wars would be either extremely bloody, as losing side would risk being wiped out to resurrect as many of winning side people as possible, or almost bloodless, as armies would be using non-lethal arms where possible to minimize chance of retribution.