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EP. REVIEW: That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime Season 2

HAL14 wrote:

a_Bear_in_Bearcave wrote: I proposed it once, but imagine similar but time-reversed situation: Large enemy army boarded ships to rape and murder defenseless port, but you can attack them while they're on the sea, maybe with krakens or storms or something. If you know you won't be able to stop them after your one attack, and even tenth of the army could easily overpower and destroy the population of port, would it really be immoral to try to slaughter all enemies, even if they beg for mercy on their ships? Yes, it would be immoral. Killing bad people =/= doing a good deed.

I don't think I agree with your first sentence. Sure, killing bad people =/= doing a good deed. But for me the self defense, or defense of loved ones is not so much a good deed, but a basic human (or slime) right, and exercising your rights isn't immoral, even if it's not necessarily moral. I would compare it to parent of a brutally murdered child hunting down and cruelly offing the murderer themselves. It's not necessarily moral - and it's explicitly illegal - but, assuming they have 100% assurance of guilt, it's not immoral act for me.

I don't view self-defense as immoral. Your first example (about the ships) just goes waaay beyond self-defense and into minority report/ judge dredd levels of morality. Anyone and anything could have the potential to harm you but a pre-emptive strike is not self-defense, it's paranoia. Heck, the enemy humans could argue their actions were valid based on the history of monsters. That eventually the monsters would have shown their true colors so why wait for them to hurt someone? The fact that their nation is still young is all the more reason to kill them now before they could grow into a bigger threat... which is exactly what happened.
But regular old self-defense where you fight back after being attacked or just scare someone off when they're threatening you isn't immoral. Although, the parent example you gave is mostly immoral, IMO, and goes back to my point about people not wanting to feel bad about killing in self-defense.

There is no "Resurrection Spell", just a freak set of circumstances that made it possible. If someone that Rimuru cares about were to die now, he would not be able to bring them back.

Just to reiterate: the resurrection that was accomplished is an exceedingly rare event. First, the barrier that was in place when Shion and the others were murdered prevented their souls from dispersing, as would normally happen. When Rimuru realized this, he immediately reinforced the barrier. Second, the process of becoming a True Demon Lord is very rare. And third, Milam was the first (or maybe second) True Demon Lord in world history. Elen happened to know a legend about it that appeared to suggest that reincarnation might be possible. For 3 days, Rimuru (and Great Sage) did nothing but think of a way to bring Shion back and failed until Elen showed up and told him that story.

There is no "Resurrection Spell", just a freak set of circumstances that made it possible. If someone that Rimuru cares about were to die now, he would not be able to bring them back.

Tuor_of_Gondolin wrote:

There is no "Resurrection Spell", just a freak set of circumstances that made it possible. If someone that Rimuru cares about were to die now, he would not be able to bring them back.

OK, but however rare it was, the resurrection was crucial to the moral calculation of this single event we now debate. Without it the mass slaughter of surrendering enemies would be much harder, if possible at all, to defend, and the discussion would probably take tenth of the posts it has now.

This is, of course, overlooking that the Slime universe looks upon Rimuru as a favored son, and would happily resurrect anyone he wanted, the moment he needed it. But we'd be told the probability of it working was low -- something like 3%. To create that sense of suspense you can only get from being narratively told that the chance of a thing that's clearly absolutely going to happen could maybe you know not happen and is actually really risky.

Really, if we take into account the way the narrative treats Rimuru, maybe resurrection is commonplace after all. We've just got to conspire to get Rimuru into situations where the world sees him need it..

everydaygamer wrote:

Honestly, I just think it's bad writing that the series had to go to the extreme of portraying Falmuth and the church as irredeemably evil just so it could have Rimuru brutally slaughter all of them without any of the weight that would normally accompany such an act

There are plenty of similar examples in today's world, that such portrayals would be realistic.

OK, but however rare it was, the resurrection was crucial to the moral calculation of this single event we now debate. Without it the mass slaughter of surrendering enemies would be much harder, if possible at all, to defend, and the discussion would probably take tenth of the posts it has now.

This is, of course, overlooking that the Slime universe looks upon Rimuru as a favored son, and would happily resurrect anyone he wanted, the moment he needed it. But we'd be told the probability of it working was low -- something like 3%. To create that sense of suspense you can only get from being narratively told that the chance of a thing that's clearly absolutely going to happen could maybe you know not happen and is actually really risky.

Really, if we take into account the way the narrative treats Rimuru, maybe resurrection is commonplace after all. We've just got to conspire to get Rimuru into situations where the world sees him need it..

The 3% number was from before Rimuru evolved into a True Demon Lord.

So when Rimuru brought everyone back with those few spells/abilities/skills/whatever (Secret art of resurrection etc), are those one time abilities he can use at this time when evolving to a demon lord, or are they now in his repertoire?
It first was implied that his evolution allowed the resurrection as a side effect, but when he used specific ability names after his evolution (rather than just happening during it without his interference), it got me wondering.
Just curious if anyone knows for sure from the source

The skills/abilities they received as part of the Harvest Festival are their to keep. However, if you mean "is Resurrection a skill he received as part of becoming a True Demon Lord?" The answer to that is no, it's not. That was something he was able to do as part of the ceremony.

I will say it again. There has never, nor is there ever likely to be, an entire nation or army full of nothing but people who salivate at the thought of committing atrocities. Not even the Nazis, the most evil group of people to ever exist (arguably) was that one-note.