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INTEREST: Wonder Egg Priority Director Shares Cut Context for Mannequins' Sexist Dialogue Scene in E

OtherSideofSky wrote:

If we're looking at the context of that conversation, I think it's important to remember Neiru's line that starts it. She asks Acca what's going on and says that there "shouldn't" be any boys in a way that implies that a boy being there would contradict something she'd previously been told by Acca. We don't see how anyone but Ai first encounters Acca and the eggs, so how the situation was presented to them is still a mystery. (Rika also mistakes Momoe for a boy but thinks that makes sense, so clearly she wasn't told whatever Neiru was.)

Yay that is a very good point. honestly this is just yet another set of worms that REALLY should get addressed ASAP when the director is quite possible digging an even bigger terf hole to throw Neiru into. which could become a big problem fast when the show is about trauma and gender.

No, no, no, Director, that line makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE!!! Please have the characters disagree with “accepted knowledge” like Acca’s BS gender essentialist suicide line as *clearly and unambiguously* as possible! Lots of people believe what Acca said, and letting it stand unchallenged made me wonder whether the show agreed. It wouldn’t be the first time an anime reinforced problematic and scientifically unsound ideas about gender. This anime deals with trauma, suicide, gender, and mental health (and LGBT+ issues, although it hasn’t confirmed Momoe’s identity yet—she could be a trans girl AMAB, or AFAB non-binary, or a cis girl taking on a “prince” role) and these sensitive topics that affect people in real life give the show all the more reason to spell out that it doesn’t ascribe to these assumptions.

Then funimation really needs to correct their subs so they don't make characters sound like terfs on accident

Agent355 wrote:

No, no, no, Director, that line makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE!!! Please have the characters disagree with “accepted knowledge” like Acca’s BS gender essentialist suicide line as *clearly and unambiguously* as possible! Lots of people believe what Acca said, and letting it stand unchallenged made me wonder whether the show agreed. It wouldn’t be the first time an anime reinforced problematic and scientifically unsound ideas about gender. This anime deals with trauma, suicide, gender, and mental health (and LGBT+ issues, although it hasn’t confirmed Momoe’s identity yet—she could be a trans girl AMAB, or AFAB non-binary, or a cis girl taking on a “prince” role) and these sensitive topics that affect people in real life give the show all the more reason to spell out that it doesn’t ascribe to these assumptions.

This show is interesting precisely because its main characters aren't perfect and don't all share the same philosophy. Having them "clearly and unambiguously" dispense moral truths at every opportunity turns them from interesting characters into political mouthpieces. I'd like to think storytelling in anime has moved on from Sailor Moon Says.

The anime fandom at large doesn't deserve any subtlety about things like this, because they'll just argue until the cows come home that because something wasn't stated explicitly then it isn't true and anyone who argues otherwise (i.e. actually is capable of recognizing basic shit) is just some evil people who care about social justice trying to shove things down their throat.

I know Funi wouldn't want any character or themselves to be sounding terf-ish.

The anime fandom at large doesn't deserve any subtlety about things like this, because they'll just argue until the cows come home that because something wasn't stated explicitly then it isn't true and anyone who argues otherwise (i.e. actually is capable of recognizing basic shit) is just some evil people who care about social justice trying to shove things down their throat.

For people who are fine with the second blanket statement "When it comes to their brains, boys and girls are also the same", please explain so in scientific terms and not through what you want the situation to be. Just from what I know of the Endocrine system has me facepalming on that second statement.

Then funimation really needs to correct their subs so they don't make characters sound like terfs on accident

So my problem with a blanket statement being a blanket statement regarding suicide was "corrected" by a second blanket statement but one going in the opposite direction that was cut for time.

When you're in a hole, don't dig yourself deeper!

For people who are fine with the second blanket statement "When it comes to their brains, boys and girls are also the same", please explain so in scientific terms and not through what you want the situation to be. Just from what I know of the Endocrine system has me facepalming on that second statement.