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EP. REVIEW: SSSS.Dynazenon


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Covnam



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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2021 11:44 pm Reply with quote
Loved the combination this week. Glad to see Goldburn join the team and not end up having to be put down or something.

Gem-Bug wrote:

On the Yume front, I'm not sure if Futaba is actually suspicious, or just indifferent/has moved on with his life. Usually, when a character says something like "the police even said it was an accident!", it raises a red flag. He seemed in a hurry to get out of the situation, but again, bringing up old memories of your exe's accidental death/suicide is likely hard. I'm not sure.


It looked like he had a wedding ring on, so maybe he just doesn't want to be involved and more than this.
He also might be feeling guilty. "Most people would think that" could be him talking about himself as well.
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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2021 4:32 am Reply with quote
It kind of turned out well so far, Goldburn and the transformation was cool, that I am kind of expecting some more dark twist. Such as, one cannot help but think of Yume jumping off before being saved by Goldburn kind of feels like the exact kind of setup that could have led to her sister's death. Could the cause have been something similar, where maybe her "friends" pulled the same prank of pretending to throw the puzzle and did not expect that she was in such a place that she want jump?

It could be an explanation of even the ex-boyfriend using specific language of it being ruled an accident, where none of the people around her realised what they thought was all in good fun could have an as dramatic consequence of her jumping to her death. A lot of things then could lead to a theme of healthy interactions vs unhealthy ones, where a bunch of people that could come across as broken can work out better if done positively in comparison to the "its just a prank" sort of interactions that look normal.
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It's been a while since I haven't seen a hype mecha fusion. It even wears a cape
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:32 am Reply with quote
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we still don't even have full context for Gauma's turnaround from the Kaiju Eugenicists


With only 3 more episodes left, I expect this to get more emphasis story-wise.

Ep 10's synopsis speaks of "an unprecedentedly powerful force is attacking the city. Yomogi takes the Dyna Soldier and confronts its source."
https://dynazenon.net/story/#/10
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:55 pm Reply with quote
Well, we got our "Auteur"/evangelion episode. I'm gonna be honest, the new style used for this one was super distracting for me. There were a few scenes where Gauma's proportions were super stretched out/janky looking.

I can look past that, though, since Yume finally got closure in regards to her sister. All of her scenes this episode were a mix of sad and sweet, and I wasn't expecting her to actually get a chance to talk with her deceased sister, who, as it turns out, liked to regularly sing on the edge of the flood gate. Accidents happen to anyone.

I felt Yume's part was such a highlight that it kind of overshadowed Gauma and Koyomi's past plots, and with the "I'm gonna go into the past then interact with it" aspect of things, I'm not sure what parts are actual past events, and what is idealized. We know Gauma betrayed the Eugenicists, at least.

We didn't see Sizumu anywhere after vanishing with the others, and was presumably not present in their past events. I'm really, really, of the mind that he is in fact a Kaiju like Anti/Knight and 2nd, and likely is the one who scattered the source gems in the first episode.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:19 am Reply with quote
Gem-Bug wrote:
Well, we got our "Auteur"/evangelion episode. I'm gonna be honest, the new style used for this one was super distracting for me. There were a few scenes where Gauma's proportions were super stretched out/janky looking.

We didn't see Sizumu anywhere after vanishing with the others, and was presumably not present in their past events. I'm really, really, of the mind that he is in fact a Kaiju like Anti/Knight and 2nd, and likely is the one who scattered the source gems in the first episode.


This same auteur style was used in Ep 9 of SSSS Gridman, also a surrealistic dream-themed episode. Handled by the same episode director, Ikarashi Kai.

Voice drama 10.01 confirms that Sizumu was part of the kaiju-user team in the past, and was just as suspicious then too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZm_bEkZ8FI

Already Sizumu had reduced biological functions (Mujina calls him out on hardly eating that day, which he brushes aside) and musing that "so long as we have the kaiju, we could be free, without having to follow anyone's command".
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:59 pm Reply with quote
zztop wrote:


This same auteur style was used in Ep 9 of SSSS Gridman, also a surrealistic dream-themed episode. Handled by the same episode director, Ikarashi Kai.


Yeah, I don't remember. I didn't go back and watch SSSS Gridman again in preparation for this series. Good catch though.

zztop wrote:
Voice drama 10.01 confirms that Sizumu was part of the kaiju-user team in the past, and was just as suspicious then too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZm_bEkZ8FI

Already Sizumu had reduced biological functions (Mujina calls him out on hardly eating that day, which he brushes aside) and musing that "so long as we have the kaiju, we could be free, without having to follow anyone's command".


It's great that you can decipher these dramas, but as youtube still can't translate them, I'm going to continue ignoring them under the belief that adding vital characterization and possible plot details outside the episodes(but usually on what, the same day the episode airs?) is silly and bad design. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:39 pm Reply with quote
Gem-Bug wrote:
and with the "I'm gonna go into the past then interact with it" aspect of things, I'm not sure what parts are actual past events, and what is idealized. We know Gauma betrayed the Eugenicists, at least.


That's what I'm wondering too. Was it all just a dream, did they really go into the past, or some odd combination?

Despite seeing this, we still don't know what really happened with Kano (though I'd say it's all but confirmed that Yume found her, or at least saw her before she was... retrieved. I think it was just hinted at before). Obviously, how she died is less important than the fact that whether this was a "dream" or not, it still helped Yume move forward.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:25 am Reply with quote
Gem-Bug wrote:
zztop wrote:


This same auteur style was used in Ep 9 of SSSS Gridman, also a surrealistic dream-themed episode. Handled by the same episode director, Ikarashi Kai.


Yeah, I don't remember. I didn't go back and watch SSSS Gridman again in preparation for this series. Good catch though.

zztop wrote:
Voice drama 10.01 confirms that Sizumu was part of the kaiju-user team in the past, and was just as suspicious then too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZm_bEkZ8FI

Already Sizumu had reduced biological functions (Mujina calls him out on hardly eating that day, which he brushes aside) and musing that "so long as we have the kaiju, we could be free, without having to follow anyone's command".


It's great that you can decipher these dramas, but as youtube still can't translate them, I'm going to continue ignoring them under the belief that adding vital characterization and possible plot details outside the episodes(but usually on what, the same day the episode airs?) is silly and bad design. Rolling Eyes


There are fantranslations of the voice dramas out on the internet; you just have to know where to look. Unfortunaty I can't directly link them here since I don't want to fall afoul of ANN's no fansub/scanlation rules, but they are definitely out there.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:02 am Reply with quote
Chris' article of episode 10 was particularly fun to read. The way how the coping of Yume's doubts concerning the circumstances of her sister's death was presented really reminded me of the last episodes from the Umineko no Naku Koro Ni novel series, where certain characters were confronted with doubts about the true feelings and thoughts of their deceased relatives and were able to come to terms with their loss by talking to them in their minds.

As a bereaved person myself, I can strongly relate with what Yume is going through. Especially when impressions and views or rumors from others collide with your own view of the person who suddenly passed away, you will feel overwhelmed by remorse and self-doubts about how well you really knew the person and tries to find explanations. This composite picture you end up with based on your memory along with all the other impressions is like a Schrödinger's cat, you learn to live with this ambiguity by trying to find your own acceptable truth which helps you find your peace with that past and person.

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We didn't see Sizumu anywhere after vanishing with the others, and was presumably not present in their past events

He was seen standing on the kaiju in one of the flashback scenes at the beginning for at least a few seconds, so he was definitely part of the team then, even though he wasn't seen during the dying moments after their loss against Gauma. Someone in the thread pointed Gauma's growing scar-like stain on his back before, so I paid attention to this one and noticed that he got his Z-like wound on his cheek in that said memory, but there wasn't anything seen on his back, so he must have gotten it after these events then.

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zztop wrote:
It's great that you can decipher these dramas, but as youtube still can't translate them, I'm going to continue ignoring them under the belief that adding vital characterization and possible plot details outside the episodes [...] is silly and bad design.

I can understand that sentiment. Transmedia storytelling and lore expansion is pretty common for anime productions but I am also someone who mostly prefer it when crucial backstories of important characters are covered within one single media which I can consider as a canonical basis.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:06 pm Reply with quote
Gem-Bug wrote:

-Sizumo is giving some otherworldly vibes. Could be a kaiju?


Been saying it for a month, looks like I was right! Looks a little bit like Blizzalar? I'm not super familiar with the original Gridman series, so I'm unsure if his design is supposed to be a callback.

Great episode. I loved the OG Gridman Mummy episode screenshot on Yomogi's phone. Finale next week!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:48 am Reply with quote
Voice drama 11.11 is up, and we finally get to hear Yomogi's biological dad.
Yomogi seems to be on fairly good but awkward terms with him. (Apparently dad is voiced by Shizumu's VA).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQZircOKeBs&t

Sequence of events is also a callback to voice drama 2.9 from the Gridman Blurays, where Alexis took out Akane and Anti for dinner.

Jjust like Gridman's last voice drama 12.12, the final voice drama Ep 12 is going straight to Bluray Vol 4. Making 11.11 the last free release.

Each of the Bluray releases will have one exclusive voice drama episode each.
Vol 1 - Ep 3/1 (Against The Rules /ルール違反)
Vol 2 - Ep √36 (Please Fight in Moderation/ 適度に喧嘩しなさい)
Vol 3 - Ep 9+1 (I Don't Have to Work/働かなくていいから)
Vol 4 - Ep 12 (段差/Step(s))

https://dynazenon.net/product/bd/bd1/
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:43 pm Reply with quote
Episode 12:

Gridman x Dynazeon x spoiler[Kiznaiver?]
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:07 pm Reply with quote
Good finale! I don't think I have a whole lot to say, really.

I really liked everyone trying to work out their differences during the super sakuga battle, but then the Eugenicists died and we didn't see them again, and then Gauma died and we didn't see him again. I guess maybe we didn't need to, but we also didn't really learn much about any of them?

I liked when Knight was like "Who are you again?" and I was also like "Yeah, who the hell is that?", not instantly realizing it was Koyomi/Koyomi wasn't there(he looks great).

I liked Chise's tattoo. Not sure if Goldburn took it's form based on her feelings of said tattoo, or if she got it afterwards to cover what was already there/to remember him by. I like to think the former.

I like that Yomogi and Yume got Gauma-esque scars, which I noticed during the fight before they actually brought it up near the end. Still not big on their relationship.

So that's, that, I guess. This was a treat to watch each week, even if the last couple episodes have felt "off" a little for me. Not quite rushed, not quite missing something. Not sure how to put it.

I'm excited for whatever Trigger decides to do with this mythos next, even if this is a goodbye to most of these characters.

The real friends were the real friends we made along the way. Wink
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So, what was the third thing one's supposed to always keep? ...The friends we made along the way?
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